This is kind of sobering...

[Mills]

2 hours ago, Growl said:

this keeps being parroted as if it's the be all end all way to show that the panthers are totally amazing and stuff

the reality is is that it is one individual case against the backdrop of the entire league, and that the array out horrible drafts Seattle has made have come with fitterers influence at its zenith

 

You don't generally go cherry picking from poor performances for good reason

Exactly. No one is saying that he will fail because the Seahawks haven’t drafted very well. You would think that any logical thinking poster would be able to read the article, decipher the information presented, and not jump to one extreme or the other...but this is the huddle. 
 

Dude was the director of college scouting. How could he NOT shoulder a large part of the blame for terrible college picks? 

[Growl]

10 minutes ago, Mills said:

Exactly. No one is saying that he will fail because the Seahawks haven’t drafted very well. You would think that any logical thinking poster would be able to read the article, decipher the information presented, and not jump to one extreme or the other...but this is the huddle. 
 

Dude was the director of college scouting. How could he NOT shoulder a large part of the blame for terrible college picks? 

Because his background in personnel isn't why he appealed to tepper

[Icege]

With how quick the team moved after bringing him in as one of the two final interviews, at the very least there will hopefully good synergy between Fitterer, Rhule, and Tepper. Will have to wait and see how the decision making goes along with how growth & development are approached (both for leadership and the team as a whole).

[pantherclaw]

He didn't select Seattle's draft picks. 

Suggesting their draft boards were underwhelming is nothing but a stab in the dark. 

Without having been inside their meetings and draft room, no one can even suggest the guy has done poorly  no one stays with a franchise as long as he has by doing anything poorly.  

Stop sewing bullshit. Stop spewing crap you have no idea about. Nobody cares what anybody thinks about a guy nobody knows. 

[kungfoodude]

7 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

that said I’m a bit underwhelmed with the hire. I’m glad he comes from a good organization and it seems we are mimicking their setup with coach and GM that work together and share power in picks and team building. We’ll see if that works but it’s a risk since Rhule is green. Although if rumors are true he had a ton of say in last draft, we hit it out of the park. So hopefully that continues.

this draft is really essential to us laying a solid foundation for the next 5 years. 

That's really the biggest unknown of all. How much was Hurney and how much was Rhule? The actual truth, is that none of us know. The people that seem to subscribe heavily to one scenario or the other are almost certainly showing their hatred for either Rhule or Hurney.

In the end, IDGAF. It was a good draft. Even if it was all Hurney, I'm still glad we moved on from him.

[SmokinwithWilly]

46 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's really the biggest unknown of all. How much was Hurney and how much was Rhule? The actual truth, is that none of us know. The people that seem to subscribe heavily to one scenario or the other are almost certainly showing their hatred for either Rhule or Hurney.

In the end, IDGAF. It was a good draft. Even if it was all Hurney, I'm still glad we moved on from him.

The reason I say this draft was more Rhule and less Hurney is the picks themselves arent characteristic of past Hurney picks after the first. His picks seemed to always boom or bust. A lot of the profiles used the term raw and needs development to compete at the next level. YGM and Chinn were both considered starting material coming out from what I remember reading. That's what I expect from rds 2-3. Its just not what we're used to seeing.

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The reason I say this draft was more Rhule and less Hurney is the picks themselves arent characteristic of past Hurney picks after the first. His picks seemed to always boom or bust. A lot of the profiles used the term raw and needs development to compete at the next level. YGM and Chinn were both considered starting material coming out from what I remember reading. That's what I expect from rds 2-3. Its just not what we're used to seeing.

Yeah but Hurney has actually had some really great drafts in his past. And you could easily argue that we did have a lot of boom or bust guys in this draft too(in fact that is a lot of what we did end up taking). 

So maybe he was just one fire in a rare case? Or maybe it was all Rhule? Or maybe it was some unknown combination of both? We really will probably never know, TBH.