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D. Will for MVP


Carolina_Pride

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Ryan isn't in the top ten? Go ahead and name the 10 qb's that have been playing better than him.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

Top 10 in yards.. sry, i shuda been more specific..

1Brees

2Warner

3Cutler

4P.Manning

5Rivers

6Mcnabb

7Rogers

8Cassel

9Garrard

10Pennington

11Ryan

when Pennington beats you out in yards, you cannot be in the conversation for MVP.. thats the rule

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http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&conference=null&season=2008&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=PASSING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

Top 10 in yards.. sry, i shuda been more specific..

1Brees

2Warner

3Cutler

4P.Manning

5Rivers

6Mcnabb

7Rogers

8Cassel

9Garrard

10Pennington

11Ryan

when Pennington beats you out in yards, you cannot be in the conversation for MVP.. thats the rule

Yards mean jack poo. Brees has probably put up a 1000 yards in the fourth quarter against third stringers, when the game was out of reach. In Atlanta, they didn't have a prayer and he threw a hail mary with three seconds left.

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And to think in the beginning of the year, half of the carolina fans recommended J. Stew as starting running back.... oh how i love the fair weather fans

Those same people ranted about how Williams "couldn't carry the load". "He's not a 'big back'. Blah, blah, blah...

I guess 20 touchdowns will shove the 'we need a big back' argument up someone's arse. And no, Jonathan Stewart is NOT a 'big back'. Brandon Jacobs is a big back. Stewart is a similar back to DeAngelo really. He just has bigger thighs!

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AP - Probably.. he has the yards.. he has his team in the playoffs (as of now).. and he has the Name everyone knows..

He 'should not get it' IMO. 8 freaking fumbles?! Only 9 TDs with > 1,600 yds rushing?!

D.Will has great yds per carry & TD stats, 0 fumbles. Total yrds should not be confused with effectiveness; 5.4/carry (DWill) vs 4.8/carry (AP)....nough said!

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Yards mean jack sh*t. Brees has probably put up a 1000 yards in the fourth quarter against third stringers, when the game was out of reach. In Atlanta, they didn't have a prayer and he threw a hail mary with three seconds left.

i keep reading ATL fans saying that and it just doesn't make sense to me, throwing a last second pass in a game isn't 'padding your stats' its playing to the damn end like any player should do.....you NEVER lay down for a team don't matter how far you are behind....if that was Atlanta would you want Ryan to just a take a knee and get it over with or still try and make a play because thats your job? i believe you would take the latter any day

Plus last second hail mary pass are the least likely completed passes for QBs in games, how many last second hail marys have you seen just batted away or intercepted, more than 50% of them, so if you want to be mad at anyone, be mad at the defense for not making the play so he couldn't 'pad his stats' as yall say

sorry to derail the thread but that thought is just stupid that a QB should just lay down in ANY game

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