Is Tua an option? Appears to be trouble in paradise...

[pantherclaw]

2 hours ago, AU-panther said:

I don't understand why people think it is so crazy that an organization could use 2 1st round picks on QBs in a short period of time.

There isn't a team in the league that wouldn't happily give up 2 first for a franchise QB.

You are basically giving yourself 2 chances for finding a QB.

If one is bad, and the other one is good, you are happy.

If they are both are good, you trade one, you are happy.

If they both are terrible, then you are still looking for a QB.

If any of these reports are true, then it sounds like the Dolphins should look at QB this year.

 

 

When a teammis drafting that high, and they aren't certain they have their guy, nothing will stop them from drafting another QB. It's a win/win situation for the team, with zero downside. 

[Waldo]

I didn't think he was worth a 1st last year and I wouldn't want us trading our for him now. This would be a very bad start to the new regime.

 

[SCO96]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

If Miami had the #1? This would be a different discussion... but is the #2 QB in this draft a sure fire better pick than Tua?  I don't know they are.  Otoh... lots of great players will be available at 3.

You and I have the same concerns about this draft. Too many fans on this board seem to think that the success of our franchise for the rest of this decade depends on getting Fields, Wilson, or Trask in this draft between picks #2 and #8. None of these guys is a sure thing in the NFL. We have a chance to get 2-3 starters at other positions in the first 3 rounds of this years draft (picks 8, 39, 73). I'd rather fill our major holes and build more depth than reach for someone who doesn't pan out.

And no...I would not consider Tua an option based on what I've seen so far.

[AU-panther]

11 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

You and I have the same concerns about this draft. Too many fans on this board seem to think that the success of our franchise for the rest of this decade depends on getting Fields, Wilson, or Trask in this draft between picks #2 and #8. None of these guys is a sure thing in the NFL. We have a chance to get 2-3 starters at other positions in the first 3 rounds of this years draft (picks 8, 39, 73). I'd rather fill our major holes and build more depth than reach for someone who doesn't pan out.

And no...I would not consider Tua an option based on what I've seen so far.

Who do you have in mind for QB for the future then?  or are you happy building around Teddy?

 

[theinstrumental]

I do not want to replace Teddy with Younger Teddy.

[Varking]

@Zod I have this dude on ignore and I still see this thread. Is that normal behavior of the forum software? 

[Aussie Tank]

Well it would turn Moton into our blindside protector 

[trueblade]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

The decision to bench Fitz was a bad one and was unfair to Fitz, Tua and the other players on the roster as well. It did look like an attempt to keep the team in position for a good draft pick.

You do know Miami went 10-6 , right?

[trueblade]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

 

Dup

[trueblade]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

 

Dup

[Davidson Deac II]

Its way to early to give up on Tua, but Miami using another first rounder on a qb wouldn't be that shocking.   Arizona did it picking Rosen and Murray.

[TheProcess]

Tua had ups and downs in his first season. Let's look at some facts of his season though.

1 - Tua hadn't played in an entire year due to a horrific injury. 

2 - He came back from this injury, not playing in a year, with no rookie camp, no pre-season, and very limited training camp.

3 - Tua played in very rare circumstances for a rookie QB. He was thrown into the fire of a playoff race.

4 - Tua as a rookie was playing behind 3 rookie offensive linemen that was very inconsistent picking up blitzes and different looks. 

5 - Miami also had very little running game to help the situation. Some due to a young line, the rest due to not having any skill in the backfield.

6 - Miami has one of the worst, if not the worst set of weapons in the entire NFL. In 3 games towards the end of the season, Mack Hollins was their top target. Tua had Miami's best (not good) receivers for 2 games. He beat the Rams and the Cardinals, playing really well against the Cardinals.

7 - Chan Gailey was the OC in Buffalo when Fitzpatrick played there. Chan was hired last offseason to bring in a system that Fitz could thrive in. His system does not fit the strengths of Tua at all.  Chan has now "retired" again.

 

I think you could look back through the entire history of the NFL, and it would be tough to find a rookie QB that has been faced with these circumstances. The jury is by far still out on Tua. Give him some weapons that can create quick space, and can win at the too of their routes, give him a RB, and an OC who has a system that fits his strengths, I think Tua will do really well. 

Also, don't listen to the media narrative about Fitz being their closer. Fitz came in and won ONE game against the Raiders. That was the ONLY time he "saved" the day. Raiders had just fired their DC, Marinelli stepped in and changed some looks. Gailey admitted Tua had never seen those looks, and he did not have him prepared for those looks. The game was still 16-13 when the change was made. 

 

Tua to Carolina

Teddy to Houston with other assets 

Watson to Miami

 

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

@Zod I have this dude on ignore and I still see this thread. Is that normal behavior of the forum software? 

Why don't you simply ignore it?

[Catsfan69]

Tua is a bust. No thank you.