John Fox should stay

[CRA]

Next year Peppers and Smitty will both be gone and Fox will remain.

And we will have a decent quarterback and go deep into the playoffs if not to the SB

Meeks' D needs a Pep caliber guy.....Fox's run, run, hit the big playaction pass needs a WR like Smitty.

[MemphisGambler]

Every coach is a QB away from being "great". This argument is retarded. The Colts won a SB with Tony Dungy. Now he's retired and they are better. The Steelers won a SB with Bill Cowher. Now he's retired and they are better for it.

They were "great" because they had amazing QB's. Give Raheem Morris a QB like Tom Brady and I bet everyone says he's such a great coach. Look at Mike Smith. Not saying that he's bad by any means at all. I think he's good. But because of Matt Ryan he looks great.

Norv Turner with Phillip Rivers even.. NORV TURNER. There's more to being a good coach than having a good QB. If you're a casual fan you probably cannot distinguish the difference.

The biggest issue is that Fox has run his course here. I, like many other people, feel like he has sort of plateaued with this team. For us to step to the next level, it's time for a change in the coaching staff.

People forget about Cowher dicking around with Kordell Stewart and Tommy Maddox. I believe that Hurney is the bigger problem. Fox isn't the GM. Of course, as stated before, if Hurney goes, Fox goes as well.

[Snake]

Next year Peppers and Smitty will both be gone and Fox will remain.

And we will have a decent quarterback and go deep into the playoffs if not to the SB

Yea..... Like teams trade way Pro Bowlers so they can keep there under performing coach. You might as well tell me that Delhomme is gonna have a Pro Bowl season next year. :smilielol5:

[Hairless Cat]

Yea..... Like teams trade way Pro Bowlers so they can keep there under performing coach. You might as well tell me that Delhomme is gonna have a Pro Bowl season next year. :smilielol5:

Its not trading away a pro bowler so they can keep their coach. If you thought that you need to contemplate attempting a course in logic, maybe at your local community college.

Everyone knows Peppers wants out and the pay he is recieving has really hurt this team this year.

Smitty much as I like him is a liability in the locker room, sometimes on the field as well and is on the back side of his career.

both are playing their last season as a Carolina Panther.

[err456]

I'm like a lot of other people on here in thinking Fox is not a bad coach and if our QB were better we would be a good team. The problem is it's Fox's job to make us a good team and even though we have most of the pieces of the puzzle here we are missing the most important piece. A good QB is a must. Sure teams have won big with average guys at QB but it's the exception rather than the rule and when they did win big they had other areas (like great defenses) to take up the slack. We have a good defense but not a great one. (not yet anyways) We have a great run game but no passing game. We are a good QB away from being a great team. Yes Fox could get us a SB win if we had all the right pieces but he's the one building the team and he's the one that has sold us short the QB area. When you make the money Fox does you have to be held accountable. It's time to hold him accountable.

[rayzor]

I will say this. Fox has gone soft on this team, and needs to ratchet up the intensity or ship out.

He whipped this team into shape when he got here, going from 1-15 to the Superbowl in 2 years.

Since then I think he's gotten to know the players, and has trouble demanding that upper level of performance.

Lack of focus, a fat belly...yeah, that's Foxball right now. I don't want him gone. I want him to go back to being the coach he was when he got here, demanding accountability from his players on the field.

Back when "It is what it is" was a call to toughen up and knuckle down and play some damn football, and not just a soft excuse for another game where the team failed to execute.

true.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Everyone's just mad because we didn't draft one of the 3 qbs worth drafting in the past 5 years.

[jramsey4]

Everyone's just mad because we didn't draft one of the 3 qbs worth drafting in the past 5 years.

Look at it this way in Fox/Hurney regime there have been 2 QBs drafted (a 4th and 5th). You know how many RBs, 6 (2 2nd rounders were busts). Or how about TE's, 6. They have no problem using a draft pick on a RB or TE but god forbid they use one on a QB the most important position in football.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

I look at it this way. Only a handful of qbs taken in the first round in the past 5 years were actually worth a first round pick.

Who do we give up to take a chance on a QB that would most likely bust?

Beason? Davis? Otah? Stewart? Williams? Brown? Who should we have taken a shot on?

There are more undrafted QBs succeeding in the league than 2nd rounders.

How many teams have set themselves back several years by hanging their first round draft picks on qbs that busted?