Updated GM Update

[Little Goody Two Shoes]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Elway's endorsement doesn't exactly give me the warm fuzzy feeling, just saying.  

Yeah, if he's so good why don't they want him.

[Mills]

It wouldn't shock me if KAM was our guy. Aside from the analytics piece, Tepper has a hard on for Ivy league guys.

[NYPantherFan]

2 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

So it looks like we're leaning towards Ireland or KAM. Why do I think this? 

If Peters were our guy, there'd be nothing stopping us from hiring him outright because the 49ers aren't in the playoffs right now. Both KAM and Ireland's teams are still in it, potentially blocking us from hiring them right away. Each passing day we go without a GM, the more likely it is to me that we want Ireland or KAM. 

Same can be said for Joe Schoen. I think people are sleeping on him.

[Waldo]

Don't like KAM at all. Browns, analytics and would have to pair him with someone that actually knows players. Hard pass. We should have fired Hurney and hired Berry, thats the only guy with the Browns I would want at GM.

Bummed about Peter's, seemed like a great candidate that checked all the boxes.

 

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Waldo said:

Don't like KAM at all. Browns, analytics and would have to pair him with someone that actually knows players. Hard pass. We should have fired Hurney and hired Berry, thats the only guy with the Browns I would want at GM.

Bummed about Peter's, seemed like a great candidate that checked all the boxes.

 

 

Why are you bummed about Peters?

Did you mean Dodds?

[BurnNChinn]

4 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Don't like KAM at all. Browns, analytics and would have to pair him with someone that actually knows players. Hard pass. We should have fired Hurney and hired Berry, thats the only guy with the Browns I would want at GM.

Bummed about Peter's, seemed like a great candidate that checked all the boxes.

 

 

Yeah what about Peters, I read he was a strong candidate?

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Why are you bummed about Peters?

Did you mean Dodds?

Dodds too but that makes sense.

As stated Ricky above, if we could we would hire him. It appears we are waiting for our guy to become available to hire...otherwise why would they hold up on the hire?

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Dodds too but that makes sense.

As stated Ricky above, if we could we would hire him. It appears we are waiting for our guy to become available to hire...otherwise why would they hold up on the hire?

Contract negotiation, among other possibilities. Also possible they don't want to compete in the news cycle with the national championship.

Here's the thing though: Lack of an announcement doesn't necessarily indicate lack of a decision. None of us know what's going on behind the scenes. Anything is possible.

I'm as impatient as anyone, but not ready to panic.

[trueblade]

 

[Waldo]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Contract negotiation, among other possibilities. also possible they don't want to compete in the news cycle with the national championship.

Here's the thing though: Lack of an announcement doesn't necessarily indicate lack of a decision. None of us know what's going on behind the scenes. Anything is possible.

I'm as impatient as anyone, but not ready to panic.

 All that could be true. I doubt it is contract, Rhule was hired in a visit and the the wrinkles could be smoothed over by now if Peter was the guy. I'm not sure how much of a distraction us hiring a GM would be. That's bottom of the screen ticker material they play in all sports games, at least for non Panther fans. 

You got me with it doesn't indicate a lack of decision. Very true but it's still a bit concerning when the one I like is available lol. I think that makes me a little disappointed, not panicked. Now thinking of KAM as our GM, yeah that feels like a little panic creeping in.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, trueblade said:

 

Ireland tore down and rebuilt the Saints scouting department.

Said so elsewhere: If that's something you want, you have a candidate who's already done it and did so very successfully.

[Waldo]

15 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Yeah what about Peters, I read he was a strong candidate?

He is. And he is my clear favorite. But the fact he is available and not hired is a giant red flag. I saw it posted by Ricky first.

 

3 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

So it looks like we're leaning towards Ireland or KAM. Why do I think this? 

If Peters were our guy, there'd be nothing stopping us from hiring him outright because the 49ers aren't in the playoffs right now. Both KAM and Ireland's teams are still in it, potentially blocking us from hiring them right away. Each passing day we go without a GM, the more likely it is to me that we want Ireland or KAM. 

 

[Woodie]

The more I hear, the more I like about Peters.  From a mailbag with Matt Barrows (the 49ers beat writer for the Athletic), it sounds like Peters is the guy that has been running their draft.

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How big a role does Adam Peters really play in the front office? I’ve been led to believe that, when it comes to the draft, the guy is almost de facto general manager, and losing him would be utterly disastrous. Is this accurate? — Sam C.

Well, when John Lynch was hired in 2017 he had never been part of a front office in any capacity, so he leaned heavily on Peters and Mayhew. Lynch obviously has a bigger voice than either of those two as far as who gets brought in, but in terms of setting up the draft board and all of the nitty-gritty that goes into the process, my sense is that Peters does the bulk of the work.

For example, when I requested to speak with Lynch about the team’s most recent draft class, he suggested I speak with Peters instead. That suggests two things: That the draft is Peters’ purview and that there’s no who-gets-credit tussle atop the organization. Lynch has openly acknowledged how important his assistants are and wants them to get GM opportunities.

In the same mailbag, he mentioned two potential Brady replacements if he gets one of the HC jobs.  Mike LaFleur (the 49ers passing game coordinator) and Mike McDaniel (the 49ers run game coordinator) are both hot up and coming OC candidates, and would be well known to Peters if he is the GM hire and Brady does move on.  Could be a logical fit.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Waldo said:

 All that could be true. I doubt it is contract, Rhule was hired in a visit and the the wrinkles could be smoothed over by now if Peter was the guy. I'm not sure how much of a distraction us hiring a GM would be. That's bottom of the screen ticker material they play in all sports games, at least for non Panther fans. 

You got me with it doesn't indicate a lack of decision. Very true but it's still a bit concerning when the one I like is available lol. I think that makes me a little disappointed, not panicked. Now thinking of KAM as our GM, yeah that feels like a little panic creeping in.

Taking one of the guys that doesn't have a personnel background to me basically equates to putting Rhule in complete charge of the football roster. I'm not necessarily a fan of that model.

There's another part of it that bothers me more though.

Matt Rhule stated pretty clearly that what he wanted in a GM is a talent evaluator that can help him build a roster. If David Tepper chooses someone else, he's basically ignoring Rhule and overriding his wants with his own.

I would trust David Tepper with any financial decision, but when it comes to football I haven't even seen enough that I'd let him choose my fantasy football lineup.

So we'll see...