In spite of the Giants winning....

[frash.exe]

...I have it in the back of my head, I wanna say that the best team didn't win yesterday. We give up 300+ yards in this game, but we were in it till overtime. Hell we would've won were it not for a gust of wind, and we'd be on top and the Giants would be back to the drawing board. Yea, give them credit, they earned their win, but I think we were the better team, and were it not for our depleted interior line, I think the scoreboard would've said something completely different last night.

[Ashor]

All I'm saying is that if we were to run for 300 yards... again, it wouldn't even go into overtime.

[540NYFAN]

ive said this a few times. please stop using the "gust of wind" excuse. as said in previous threads. blame your team and the humans and even crowd noise for crying out loud for losing the game. but please, please stop blaming wind and weather. the giants were on the same field, in the same weather, kicking fg's and extra points and throwing etc etc. if you dont like the weather affecting the performance of your team, i suggest you start watching billiards, table tennis, indoor swimming, etc etc, good game

[stankowalski]

I don't like making excuses for losing. We lost and it sucks but let's not take anything away from the Giants. They played to win the game, and won.

[JSouth]

They played to win the game, and won.

Exactly. The Giants played to win and we played not to lose or at least it seemed that way. Hell of a game and I hope we meet again.

[boxer]

That was a hell of a game. And after all of the anxiety has died down, I'm not really all that tore up about it. The Giants earned the win and I'm OK with that. I would rather lose that game and reset for the playoffs, than try to keep a win streak alive. But we have got to beat the Saints this next week. And I think we will. I don't want to go in as a #5 seed.

[Williams34]

Hell we would've won were it not for a gust of wind

and were it not for our depleted interior line, I think the scoreboard would've said something completely different last night.

and if that gust was relocated to the san diego game on the last play we'd have lost

and if tiki barber was still on the giants they might have ran for 400 yards

and if the chargers never traded Eli the patriots might have gone undefeated

and if we talk about ifs then anything could have happened anywhere to anything with any circumstance...:rant:

[boxer]

and if that gust was relocated to the san diego game on the last play we'd have lost

and if tiki barber was still on the giants they might have ran for 400 yards

and if the chargers never traded Eli the patriots might have gone undefeated

and if we talk about ifs then anything could have happened anywhere to anything with any circumstance...:rant:

If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we would all have a Merry Christmas?

[HoFBound90]

and if that gust was relocated to the san diego game on the last play we'd have lost

and if tiki barber was still on the giants they might have ran for 400 yards

and if the chargers never traded Eli the patriots might have gone undefeated

and if we talk about ifs then anything could have happened anywhere to anything with any circumstance...:rant:

Your 2nd "if" is moronic.

Congrats to the Giants but the better team did not win the game. Go ahead and flame it, but the Giants were not the better team in the game. They ran the ball for over 300 and still barely put us away.

[Williams34]

Originally Posted by Williams34 View Post

and if that gust was relocated to the san diego game on the last play we'd have lost

and if tiki barber was still on the giants they might have ran for 400 yards

and if the chargers never traded Eli the patriots might have gone undefeated

and if we talk about ifs then anything could have happened anywhere to anything with any circumstance...

Your 2nd "if" is moronic.

Congrats to the Giants but the better team did not win the game. Go ahead and flame it, but the Giants were not the better team in the game. They ran the ball for over 300 and still barely put us away.

are u saying that the gust relocation or charger trade theories are intellectual somehow?

[TheJza]

I'll look at it objectively and suggest this:

a) Save the first drive by the Giants, Carolina led and controlled the game through the first 50 minutes.

Kasay should not have been put in that position to have to kick a 50 yarder in a 35 MPH cross wind. As has been in the past, Fox played "not to lose", and it cost the Panthers the ballgame.

Plenty of timeouts, 1:30 on the clock. Ball on the 38 yard line. You mean to tell me, we can't take a couple of conservative chances to advance the ball another 10-20 yards to take the wind out of play. The longer the ball is in the air, the better odds the ball goes wayward. Instead we run it three straight times up the gut, against NINE and TEN in the box. Steve Smith was nonexistant in the 2nd half. Not his fault. The staff didn't call his number. That's a shame, and that's why we lost.

[solorca]

I find it laughable that there are people saying that "the better team didn't win". When you allow 300 rushing yards, you don't have any right to claim that you are the better team after a loss.

[stankowalski]

I find it laughable that there are people saying that "the better team didn't win". When you allow 300 rushing yards, you don't have any right to claim that you are the better team after a loss.

That's my feeling on this. Allowing any team to rush for 300 yards is an ass whooping no matter the score. I'm waaaaay more impressed with a team rushing for 300 yards than I am with a team that can throw for 400 or 500 yards. That's domination at the point of attack.

[frash.exe]

Ya know I was reading the NY post and they had game grades, oh what a circle jerk that was, only the Giant's special teams unit got less than a B or an A. But a loss, and half those power positions would be Cs and Ds. That's the bipolarity of Giants fans. Come Monday morning, they're either the best team to lace up a pair of cleats in the past 5 years or they're more inept than the Bush administration and everybody up and down the line sucks and needs to be replaced. (Yea, we do that too, but trust me, it's much more dramatic in NY than in Carolina)

Put the 300 rushing yards in perspective. What happens if Lewis wasn't injured halfway in the game? What happens if Maake didn't get hurt against Denver? All I heard Giants fans talking about their 23-0 battering we gave them in the playoffs was that Pierce was out for the season and they were picking up linebackers that were pushing carts at Pathmark the week before, that if they had them for the game, oh how different the results would have been. Giants pen their highest rushing performance the entire season and they don't think it had anything to do with the fact that our interior line has as much depth as an inner city pothole.

So the Giants won, that doesn't make them the better team, it never has during the regular season. Did it make the Bears a better team when they beat us in 05, or the Bucs when they beat us in week 6? Giants may have won the battle, but the war is far from over, and only when you win Super Bowl 43 is when I'll say, yea, you were better, but for now there is plenty of football to be played.