Curtis or Robbie?

[jackson113]

McCaffrey makes Samuel obsolete in my opinion. 

[MasterAwesome]

3 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I personally never wanted Anderson because I saw what Samuel could be. The huddle bagged on him for years now that he has developed hes everyone's favorite wr.

He’s not though...he’s a lot of people’s third favorite WR lol, hence this thread. You are even trying to convince multiple people that he’s better than Anderson in this very thread.

I can’t deny the great catch percentage but when I watch him in games, it still looks like he body-catches and bobbles balls more than I’d like from a receiver. Samuel is definitely a better weapon, but Anderson is still the superior receiver in my eyes and it’s not particularly close. I agree with those that are saying Samuel’s production has been inflated by CMC’s absence. Once CMC returns, I think this offense will benefit more from a traditional 1B receiver than a gadget player who is an above average receiver and running back but doesn’t particularly excel at either.

[45catfan]

How many 100% catch games does Anderson Have (last column)?  Samuel has 7 and only one below 60%.  So much for a crappy catcher.  Dude is only getting better and you guys want to kick him straight to the curb for a one trick pony.  Makes sense.

[SmokinwithWilly]

If we dont re-sign Samuel I would like to sesee him end up in KC. Hill and Samuel would be downright scary under Reid. 

[45catfan]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

If we dont re-sign Samuel I would like to sesee him end up in KC. Hill and Samuel would be downright scary under Reid. 

Sounds par for the course.

[micnificent28]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

He’s not though...he’s a lot of people’s third favorite WR lol, hence this thread. You are even trying to convince multiple people that he’s better than Anderson in this very thread.

I can’t deny the great catch percentage but when I watch him in games, it still looks like he body-catches and bobbles balls more than I’d like from a receiver. Samuel is definitely a better weapon, but Anderson is still the superior receiver in my eyes and it’s not particularly close. I agree with those that are saying Samuel’s production has been inflated by CMC’s absence. Once CMC returns, I think this offense will benefit more from a traditional 1B receiver than a gadget player who is an above average receiver and running back but doesn’t particularly excel at either.

Think you need to reread the thread because most say they would prefer samuel. Robby is a good player and if I had him here first before samuel then maybe. But samuel is more dynamic, plays more positions and can do everything Anderson can do. He's better after the catch as well. Not sure what you debating.

[Shocker]

Resign Samuel and Anderson...why not

[Peon Awesome]

Are people actually taking about cutting Robby to sign Curtis? We save $8 million by cutting Robby but you're going to have a hard time getting a caliber of player as good as Robby for $8 million. We assume Curtis is going for $10+ himself. Personally I wouldn't think of cutting Robby. He's a great deal at his current contract.

The question you ask yourself isn't either/or. It's whether it's worth paying all 3 next year. Samuel I think is thriving in his WR 3/gadget role but I don't think he's an ideal wr 2. He struggled there all of last year and I don't think that's all on scheme. He doesn't excel when he's out wide with a team's top corner on him. He's ideal in the slot getting into space or with the ball in his hands in the backfield. I'd ideally love to keep him but a) how much is he really worth in his role and b) how much can a healthy CMC do an even better job of that? If your trust B, you can easily spend 20% on what Samuel might cost to sign a rb to put in the backfield and have McCaffrey perform Samuel's role 10 plays per game. Personally I'd favor the latter, coup the comp pick and shore up bigger weaknesses with that money.

[shaqattaq]

17 hours ago, MechaZain said:

If they aren't, Anderson is the better move. He put up numbers despite his noodle arm QB who rarely went deep. It took CMC snaps for Curtis to produce.

This is a good point. IMO, Samuel took a lot of the receptions that would have gone to CMC. That being said...he's shown good hands and has been reliable. Hate to see him is a Buffalo uniform next season.

[shaqattaq]

15 hours ago, BrianS said:

Dude was a career 55% catcher and now he's catching over 80!  That's an incredible improvement.

A lot of that goes to QB and system fit. Rhule/Brady figured out how to use him.

[bigdavis]

Could creative restructuring of existing contracts (Bridgewater, KK?) solve the problem, and allow us to keep Samuel and Moton?

[Davidson Deac II]

On 12/28/2020 at 2:26 PM, *FreeFua* said:

There are a lot of dudes in this draft class that can be had in the 2nd and 3rd round that could replace Curtis for a fraction of the cost. Curtis at this point might be a luxury we can’t afford given our other needs.

I don't think it would be that easy.  Samuel as been the clutch receiver for us this year.  Getting someone who can perform at the level he has with a third round pick this upcoming year would require some luck.  And we have a number of areas to improve, so the second round pick we will have will be valuable and we may want to use it to get a CB or O LIne player.  

I am not saying we should sign him, it will depend on how much he wants.  And we definitely shouldn't cut Robbie to sign Samuel.  But replacing Curtis also comes with a cost.

[Icege]

5 hours ago, bigdavis said:

Could creative restructuring of existing contracts (Bridgewater, KK?) solve the problem, and allow us to keep Samuel and Moton?

I believe so. Did an offseason thread on the Football Life board where the goal was just that.

 

[Jared Patterson]

Why not just cut KK, Paradis and Teddy