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MHS831

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4 minutes ago, Carolina Mike said:

Is there any QB that we might get with NFL experience in the off season... thinking like a QB that looks bad but just maybe on a bad team?

Well, the Panthers are already paying 28M for a backup QB/mentor. How much more do they spend on it. 

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2 minutes ago, Carolina Mike said:

Is there any QB that we might get with NFL experience in the off season... thinking like a QB that looks bad but just maybe on a bad team?

Stafford is probably going to get moved, but I think you're going to have to sell him on us being able to be a legit contender. There's always the possibility of Gruden doing something stupid and parting ways with Derek Carr. That's 1a and 1b in the veteran QB market. #3 is probably Trubisky who is quietly putting together a nice season and almost certainly has Nagy regretting benching him. They've been much better with him at QB than they were with Foles. They didn't pick up his 5th year option and I absolutely expect him to test the market.

The issue with a vet QB is that you're paying Teddy $20M next season even if you cut him.

 

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The mediocrity and futility I predicted when the Panthers signed Bridgewater comes to fruition. The team manages to grab defeat from the jaws of victory with a victory and irony reigns supreme. I am utterly fed up.

I hate to think of the opportunity cost of an otherwise meaningless win and it’s impact into the future. All you had to do was lose a game. 

 

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11 minutes ago, FakePlasticTrees said:

The mediocrity and futility I predicted when the Panthers signed Bridgewater comes to fruition. The team manages to grab defeat from the jaws of victory with a victory and irony reigns supreme. I am utterly fed up.

I hate to think of the opportunity cost of an otherwise meaningless win and it’s impact into the future. All you had to do was lose a game. 

 

It's so frustrating because pretty much all of us who are real NFL football junkies all predicted this. Teddy is who he is. He was this last year with the Saints. He padded his number with one big game against the worst passing D in the NFL, but other than that game he was pretty much what he's been this season because that's what he is. It's what he's always been.

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2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Well, the Panthers are already paying 28M for a backup QB/mentor. How much more do they spend on it. 

Maybe this was planned out to hamstring us with Teddy for a few years while we built up the rest of the team... then make a push after next season on a quality QB... 

That deal for Teddy just made no sense to me.

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I see it.  Mark these words, naysayers.  Of course there is darkness right now--which is why these little things. matter.  It is so easy to mail it in.You can focus your attention and resources on the top players if you want, but teams that develop rosters from the bottom up (depth) are the most successful.  With about $50m in dead cap money and another $50 million in salary sitting on the exercise bikes (KK, CMC and Okung salaries) -we should not be competing with anyone.  Half of the salary cap on the shelf for most of the season and we started another team's backup QB.  How did that team win 5 games?  Play most teams to within one score?  It should not have happened--we were young, unheralded--but today, we did not commit a penalty until the fourth quarter or so.  Discipline.  An offense that featured 2 starting linemen that were bench players on other teams last year. No real TE to speak of---and a backup QB and journeyman RB (backed by an undrafted rookie.).  A defense that started several rookies all season (Brown, YGM, Chinn, Chinn) and Carter, a special teamer, became the starting ILB.  One starting CB was cut by the lowly Eagles and the other had turf toe most of the season. 

You are not supposed to win any games that way---we should have lost them all.  Next year, we will have a QB and some key positions will be addressed. 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I feel like we just entered a dark room and we're still fumbling for the light switch.

I don't see anything just yet.

Agree, it’s like I see some really nice pieces and a coaching staff that flashes at times... but it’s the NFL. You won’t get anywhere without an average QB. I don’t see how you can throw out dynasty with TB

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