Probable NFL draft order IF PANTHERS WIN

[micnificent28]

22 hours ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

If we are inthe top 10 we are getting a really good pick. Not worried about it

No sir. This one game is the difference between say a shot at Lawrence if they wanted to trade up, Wilson, and fields, and ending up possibly with Bridgewater for another season or Trask. By this logic all top 10 picks are good and of equal value which isn't the case.

The deference between say chase young picked at 2 who made the pro bowl vs say everyone else..  not a small gap

[Soul Rebel]

Washington has a lot going on off the field, but that defense is going to destroy us. It will be a low scoring affair and can go either way, probably decided by a late FG. 

Also, who is going to play QB this week for them.... Haskins or did he get disciplined?

[Cuttinedge]

I’d be really worried if Washington was coming off a bye. Just saying ol Ron laid a lot of turds given more time to prepare. 

[Beerfacedlegend]

With our last trends we will win the last two games and miss out on a qb and suck again

[Beerfacedlegend]

Washington’s terrible well beat the breaks on them it’s whatever I’m not expecting anything once again bring water we’ll be the qb next yea

[NCBlu]

At #7 or #8 the Panthers still have a shot at Lance. Just play every game to get better then let the draft take care of its self. 

 

[Beerfacedlegend]

We suck anyway next year let’s beat rivera and ruin his playoff hopes

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

On 12/24/2020 at 11:52 AM, Beerfacedlegend said:

Washington’s terrible well beat the breaks on them it’s whatever I’m not expecting anything once again bring water we’ll be the qb next yea

The Panthers are 4-10 lmfao the fooosball team recently Handed the previously undefeated Steelers their first loss... eeesh 

[panthers55]

I remember the same discussion last year and we did pretty good in the draft. 

There will be quality QBs available wherever we draft. If we arent getting Lawrence then the next 5 or 6 QBs aren't that different and any one of them could end up being the best of the bunch. The idea that it has to be pick 4 or we are screwed seems ridiculous given the quality of the QBs this year.

[MHS831]

32 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I remember the same discussion last year and we did pretty good in the draft. 

There will be quality QBs available wherever we draft. If we arent getting Lawrence then the next 5 or 6 QBs aren't that different and any one of them could end up being the best of the bunch. The idea that it has to be pick 4 or we are screwed seems ridiculous given the quality of the QBs this year.

After Lawrence, Fields (The Ohio State University QB curse applicable here), Wilson (good numbers vs. nothing programs when he has time in the pocket), and Lance (my favorite, but he has the biggest learning curve), you have Mac Jones, and he could end up being the best QB in the draft after Trevor.  If the draft with Baker and Darnold and Rosen and Allen were today, who would Cleveland choose?

Better question:  IF Cleveland chose Allen, would Allen be the Allen of today?

I think the supporting cast, coaching staff/system/patience, etc., has everything to do with it.  To add to you comment--if teams trade up and leave us with no real options at #10 (for example--we go on a 2-game tear), then that means there are some unloved free agents on the market and we get a solid player--because if Jones happens to go to New England at 9 in a trade up to leap frog us, for example, they get the fifth-rated QB and we get the fifth best player that does not play QB.

Lotta ways to approach this--but if Buffalo had parted ways with Allen after 2 seasons, they would have cut/traded a QB with a 55% completion rate and 21 interceptions in 27 games.  However, he was surrounded with solid players and by year three, it paid off.

Darnold, on the other hand, had similar statistics during his first 2 years in NY, but his year three stats do not show the increase in performance that Allen shows.  What is the difference?  They let Anderson go, and rumor was that Anderson was not used well in NY--so could we assume that Darnold was not used well?   The point is not, "let's go get Darnold!" but it is, "You need the pieces in place".  That determines whether or not a QB is successful, not his skill set alone.  That is why so many teams seek a savior more than a football player. 

[MHS831]

And if we traded back and got a few picks and let some desperate team move up to #4 to draft a QB, I could understand that strategy--if we landed Jones or Trask. 

Jamie Newman is going to play in the SR bowl, and he could be a factor nobody is talking about.  He really needed that year at UGA, however.

[FugginPoo]

The NFL desperately needs a draft lottery so the only “lose out” mentality is mostly around being at the cutoff, say Top 7 or 8 in lottery

[micnificent28]

Please no

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

After Lawrence, Fields (The Ohio State University QB curse applicable here), Wilson (good numbers vs. nothing programs when he has time in the pocket), and Lance (my favorite, but he has the biggest learning curve), you have Mac Jones, and he could end up being the best QB in the draft after Trevor.  If the draft with Baker and Darnold and Rosen and Allen were today, who would Cleveland choose?

Better question:  IF Cleveland chose Allen, would Allen be the Allen of today?

I think the supporting cast, coaching staff/system/patience, etc., has everything to do with it.  To add to you comment--if teams trade up and leave us with no real options at #10 (for example--we go on a 2-game tear), then that means there are some unloved free agents on the market and we get a solid player--because if Jones happens to go to New England at 9 in a trade up to leap frog us, for example, they get the fifth-rated QB and we get the fifth best player that does not play QB.

Lotta ways to approach this--but if Buffalo had parted ways with Allen after 2 seasons, they would have cut/traded a QB with a 55% completion rate and 21 interceptions in 27 games.  However, he was surrounded with solid players and by year three, it paid off.

Darnold, on the other hand, had similar statistics during his first 2 years in NY, but his year three stats do not show the increase in performance that Allen shows.  What is the difference?  They let Anderson go, and rumor was that Anderson was not used well in NY--so could we assume that Darnold was not used well?   The point is not, "let's go get Darnold!" but it is, "You need the pieces in place".  That determines whether or not a QB is successful, not his skill set alone.  That is why so many teams seek a savior more than a football player. 

Agree with you. Given that we are running an offense using West Coast style short to medium timing passes mixed with a varied run game our QB needs to have a high football IQ and making great decisions and understanding defensive schemes more than having great athleticism or being able to toss it 50 yards on a rope. Yeah he needs to have a deep ball but he doesn't have to be Aaron Rodgers to be effective. Guys like Brees aren't that gifted athletically but understand their offenses and how to manipulate defenses effectively.