Article: Matt Rhule on the rise in Carolina

[WarPanthers89]

For most coaches who see the G.M. fired and a new one hired, it’s a bad sign. For Panthers coach Matt Rhule, it’s a positive development.

As one league source explained it to PFT, the firing of Panthers G.M. Marty Hurneymeans that Rhule will essentially be running the show in Carolina, once the dust settles on the hiring of a new G.M.

It could happen as a practical matter, or it could be made more official. The new G.M. may report to Rhule; the new G.M. may report to owner David Tepper. Regardless, the new G.M. won’t be someone who comes in with a short list of preferred coaching hires and bides his time until the time comes to move out Rhule and hire someone else.

This makes Rhule a key player in the search for a new G.M., and it gives Rhule plenty of power moving forward.

It should be no surprise. The curve-blowing contract that Tepper gave to Rhule in early 2020 says it all. Rhule won’t have to worry about the new G.M. firing the coach. And the new G.M. surely won’t get the job without Rhule’s agreement.

Although the Panthers could technically give the new G.M. final say over the draft or the roster (even if Rhule will actually be making those calls), any arrangement that doesn’t entail a G.M. contract with those powers will make it harder to hire a replacement who currently has a contract with another team.

Teams from time to time have tried to circumvent the spirit of the rule by creating a disconnect between the contract and the reality for the G.M., and it rarely becomes an issue. Tepper, who angered other owners by paying an entry-level coach so much money, may decide to push the envelope in order to get the G.M. he wants.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/12/22/matt-rhule-on-the-rise-in-carolina/

[WarPanthers89]

It will be interesting to see who gets hired this offseason. I have a feeling we may be pulling from the Saints staff yet again

[Carl Spackler]

He’s about to get his ass handed to him by his predecessor on Sunday, though. 

[DFive]

54 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

He’s about to get his ass handed to him by his predecessor on Sunday, though. 

I sincerely hope so. 

[SizzleBuzz]

Org chart:

                               Tepper

                   Rhule < > New Guy (GM)

                          Everyone Else

 

Rhule and the New Guy will be on the same level -- both direct reports of Tepper. 

Rhule & New Guy will effectively be a joint/equal-partnership and Tepper's expectation will be for them to solve problems and make plans together. 

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Org chart:

                               Tepper

                   Rhule < > New Guy (GM)

                          Everyone Else

 

Rhule and the New Guy will be on the same level -- both direct reports of Tepper. 

Rhule & New Guy will effectively be a joint/equal-partnership and Tepper's expectation will be for them to solve problems and make plans together. 

That may be the plan but in the case of disagreements someone has final say and it won't likely be Tepper. If it is Rhule good luck on finding experienced GMs that want to be the coach's lackey.

[SizzleBuzz]

9 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

That may be the plan but in the case of disagreements someone has final say and it won't likely be Tepper. If it is Rhule good luck on finding experienced GMs that want to be the coach's lackey.

100% it will be Tepper...

...he explicitly said so the day Hurndog was canned.

 

 

 

[panthers55]

4 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

100% it will be Tepper...

...he explicitly said so the day Hurndog was canned.

 

 

 

Let's say the same thing happens this year and Rhule wants to move back and the new GM wants a QB or left tackle and to stay put. Tepper can say he will break ties but whoever he picks wins that battle and will be in charge of the draft or roster. The old let's be friends and get along concept is fine in theory but hard in practice. He isn't going to want to referee decisions. 

 

[OldhamA]

I think the reason Hurney was retained was because they couldn't get one of their GM candidates to agree to the terms of the new GM position - that basically Rhule was in charge of buying his own groceries. 

No young, aspiring GM wants to sign up for that - they want to run their own franchise. 

We'll see how they fare this time round. 

[Mr. Scot]

Might not be all that hard to get a young, up and coming guy who's good friends with Matt Rhule to come on board and help him out.

Someone like say...Adam Peters.

[gorillamilitia13]

I'm throwing this out there because I'm surprised I haven't seen this mentioned on the board yet. Any chance Rhule becomes one of those GM/HC's?

[Khaki Lackey]

Hopefully as time goes on they will use their "analytics" to see who has the best track record with personnel decisions and defer to him. It's a matter of people being willing to put aside their egos and admit when they get something wrong.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, gorillamilitia13 said:

I'm throwing this out there because I'm surprised I haven't seen this mentioned on the board yet. Any chance Rhule becomes one of those GM/HC's?

No.

He may end up being be the guy that has ultimate say, but these days doing both is just too big a job to handle (and Rhule has said as much).