Week 16 cheat sheet: Who to pull for and why

[MHS831]

42 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

At this point we need to hope that we lose out. I realize you’re rooting for teams in case we do win another game (which I think happens). 

Obviously we’re all in agreement that at this point we need to lose out. So if we lose out and Atlanta loses out (which they will) the tie-breaker is strength of schedule.

Our only uncommon opponents are Dallas/Washington NFC East and Seattle/Arizona NFC West. 

Right now our SOS is lower than Atlanta BUT we play Washington this weekend. So with us needing Washington to win it hurts our SOS. We need Dallas to win as well to offset the Washington win. Same applies with Seattle and AZ. 

Because it is possible that we lose out and Atlanta still picks ahead of us. I’m guessing had Washington beat Seattle on Sunday we’d be listed behind Atlanta in the draft order right now

This is too mathy for me.  Damn tie breakers!!  Why can't we break ties with "hottest cheerleaders" or "most improvement from last season"  or something important?

[Khyber53]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I heard one analyst say that Drew Brees needed to go ahead and get out there for that game so that he could knock the rust off for the games to come.

Not so sure the overall effect was worth it given that they lost, but I can see the rationale.

I heard that and honestly thought it was the stupidest thing I'd heard in years... and that's even over some of the stupid stuff the bottom end announcers we get sometimes spew. 

He came back risking worse injury to combat the chance of sliding out of the division lead, to assuage his own ego and because I think they've run out of Taysom Hill surprises.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Khyber53 said:

I heard that and honestly thought it was the stupidest thing I'd heard in years... and that's even over some of the stupid stuff the bottom end announcers we get sometimes spew. 

He came back risking worse injury to combat the chance of sliding out of the division lead, to assuage his own ego and because I think they've run out of Taysom Hill surprises.

Don't hold back. Say what you really feel 

[Sir Purr]

Pull for the Panthers.

The End.

[Khyber53]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Don't hold back. Say what you really feel 

It's him versus Brady, isn't it? Even though, for the sake of attention, only those two guys really seem to care about it anymore. They might be out there winging it on Geritol and Depends, but the league is looking past the geezers to the point where the NFCSouth battle of the GOATs QB thing has all the drawing power of a George Foreman vs Lennox Lewis charity exhibition match.

Two old guys killing themselves to grasp at the straws of their youth. Welcome to the club guys, we meet at the bar on Thursdays and the theme song is Springsteen's "Glory Days."

 

[Woodie]

4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

So what would we really like to see happen?

 

• ·        The Packers lose to the Titans (possible—a night game in Green Bay on Dec 27?  The run game may give the Titans and advantage—especially if windy)
• ·        The Seahawks beat the Rams (possible to probable)
• ·        The Washington team beats the Panthers (very possible)
• ·        The Vikings beat the Saints (unlikely)
• ·        The Bengals beat the Texans (very possible)
• ·        The Falcons beat the Chiefs (unlikely)

I have examined this quite carefully, but I may have made a miscalculation or forgotten something or someone.  Please pile on if you see something.  Basically, it seems as if the Saints will be playing for the #2 seed vs. the #3 seed in the playoffs week 17-if that.

If the Packers lose to the Titans, then we want the Saints to beat the Vikings.  That would put them playing for a potential #1 seed and Bye in week 17.  Of course, GB would have to lose that final game as well, but since their game would be played the same time as ours, NO would have to play all out in the hopes they win and GB loses.  So, no way they rest starters.

[jb2288]

I'm only telling you this because I used to do the same things for years then finally got embarrassed in a work email... it's "moot" point. Not "Mute" point

[GoPanthers123]

I pull for the Panthers, look at my user name.

[PootieNunu]

4 hours ago, Sir Purr said:

Pull for the Panthers.

The End.

 

11 minutes ago, GoPanthers123 said:

I pull for the Panthers, look at my user name.

Except there is no reason what-so-ever to win these last 2 games.

If I were Rhule I would treat these last 2 games as preseason games. Evaluate the guys we have now and see who is worth keeping around.

[Stumpy]

7 hours ago, Sir Purr said:

Pull for the Panthers to lose out.

The End.

FIFY

[Sir Purr]

34 minutes ago, Stumpy said:

FIFY

Sorry about your tiny penis, Stumpy. 

[stirs]

10 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Tanker's edition

For those of us who have visions of QBs dancing in our heads, deep down inside we are dreading the expected end of season, “Rivera Run” a process where we dominate the opposition’s bench in route to a win streak that only ends in defeat in late April.  So here is how that is playing out:

Look for New Orleans to clinch the division for our Christmas present, securing a win vs. the Vikings.  This could have week 17 implications, as is the New Year’s tradition in Carolina.  I will examine probable scenarios in a bit.  This is important because we do not want to raise the “We beat the Saints’ Bench” banner this year.

Atlanta (4-10)  will probably get a 40-point halftime lead in this matchup vs the 2019 come back kids, the Chiefs.  KC is 2 games ahead of the Steelers and the Bills, but has defeated the Bills this season, so it is a 2-horse race for the bye.  Pittsburgh has lost 3 in a row, and the nose dive is likely to continue unless they get out of the funk they are in in dramatic fashion.  The Bengals?  Come on man.  They play Indy and Cleveland-two 10-win teams, this week and next.  All that to say this:  KC has a reason to play hard this week—but if they watch score boards, they could empty the bench in the second half.

Carolina (4-10) has actually played well over the past two weeks, losing both games in respectable fashion.  Washington is a far worse team than Green Bay, and Haskins is not the same as Rogers, I heard.   Carolina will not want to face the Washington pass rush, and Washington will keep it on the ground.  Washington has reason to win this game, narrowly holding onto the NFC east lead.  Tankers, this is a winnable game that could come down to who runs it the best and how many interceptions Haskins throws.  However, I see Haskins having a really good game.  Panthers are 2 point dogs on the road, which means this is a coin toss.

Cincinnati (3-10-1) is a half a game ahead of the Panthers in the Tankathon, but they play the pathetic Houston Texans (4-10).  This is a win-win for the Panthers, unless they tie.  If Cincy wins and the Panthers lose, the Panthers move ahead of the Bengals into #3.  If Houston wins, they go to 5-10 with one to play, dropping out of a tie with the Panthers.  Yes, the Panthers have a .020 lead on them in the “strength of schedule” comparison, but the Texans play the 3-10-1 Bengals this week and the Panthers play a team with twice as many wins this week and the Saints next week.  If they both lose or win, Houston could edge the Panthers in that area based on math.   So a Bengals win is preferable—only if we lose out. 

Philadelphia (4-9-1) is a half-game ahead of the Panthers in the Tank standings, and they have a favorable schedule from the Panthers’ perspective.  They are road favorites in Dallas (-1.5) and then end the season against Washington in a game that could determine a playoff berth.  It is the NFC East, so all bets are off—after beating the Saints and playing the Cards fairly close, we need another Eagle win to keep them from stepping in front of us on draft day.

Of course, if the Panthers win, games that feature the Lions, Cowboys, Niners, Chargers, Broncos, and Giants come into play.  So technically, the Panthers range is 3-13—unless they win 2 games.

Back to New Orleans:  The Saints have a 1-game lead for the #2 spot in the NFC over the Rams and Bucs (both 9-5)  and are tied with the Seahawks (10-4).  The Saints trail the Packers by one game for the first round bye, but the Packers won the head-to-head vs. New Orleans, so that is probably a mute point, so the focus here should be on the Rams-Seahawks game.  If Seattle wins, no problem; The Saints would be playing for a #2 seed vs. a #3 seed vs. the Panthers week 17.  If the Rams win, the Seahawks, who end with a 4pm game in San Fran, could still tie the Saints if the Panthers defeat the Saints—but by the then, the tie-breaker would have been determined, and a Saints loss and a Seahawks win week 17 may not have significance.  The Rams, however, would then be 10-5 (vs. New Orleans 11-4) with a 4pm game in Arizona.  Their record vs. the NFC is identical to the Saints, so I am not sure how deep the tie breaker would go.

The best case scenario for this is for the Seahawks to beat the Rams.  That would make the Hawks and Saints both 11-4 going into week 17.  However, the tie breaker seems likely to favor the Saints if the Rams win, but I am not close to being certain about that. 

So essentially, the Saints would be playing for the difference between a #2 and #3 seed if they beat Minnesota.

If they lose to the Vikings and the Bucs win, they would be tied with the Bucs (with a tiebreaker advantage) going into week 17.

So what would we really like to see happen?

 

• ·        The Packers lose to the Titans (possible—a night game in Green Bay on Dec 27?  The run game may give the Titans and advantage—especially if windy)
• ·        The Seahawks beat the Rams (possible to probable)
• ·        The Washington team beats the Panthers (very possible)
• ·        The Vikings beat the Saints (unlikely)
• ·        The Bengals beat the Texans (very possible)
• ·        The Falcons beat the Chiefs (unlikely)

I have examined this quite carefully, but I may have made a miscalculation or forgotten something or someone.  Please pile on if you see something.  Basically, it seems as if the Saints will be playing for the #2 seed vs. the #3 seed in the playoffs week 17-if that.

You are among the few opinions I respect here.

Good work, good opinions, at least thoughtful.

 

Props

[stirs]

5 hours ago, jb2288 said:

I'm only telling you this because I used to do the same things for years then finally got embarrassed in a work email... it's "moot" point. Not "Mute" point

Don't knock the "mute" angle, especially around this place

[Stumpy]

8 minutes ago, Sir Purr said:

Sorry about your tiny penis, Stumpy. 

Everybody knows that bears have the smallest peens relative to their body size.  That's why they're so mad all the time. 

"What's that bear doing over there with such a tiny dick?"