MARTY HURNEY FIRED

[stbugs]

13 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

Just listened to the Tepper presser on releasing Hurney. 

When asked about his differences with Hurney, he stated that they have different approaches to evaluation. For example, how does a player perform in the 4th quarter or on 2 minute drives.

Does anyone else feel like this is a clear shot at Hurney's evaluation of Teddy Bridgewater?

One could interpret it that way. Would be interesting if Marty was the one who pushed that. All I know is it’s Tepper’s ultimate fault if he let Marty convince them they were a few FAs away. I still can’t fathom any good reason we kept Short or traded for Okung’s larger one year salary (we could have released Turner for less overall cap lost). If in a rebuild it makes no sense to trade for and keep two older (not 5 year plan) players coming off missing most of the season, especially since we wasted $15M in 2019 for horrible play from Paradis and Williams coming off severe injuries. If Tepper let Marty snowball him into spending more, losing comp picks and not get a player we hear rumors of him coveting then that’s on him. If he spent five minutes reading my plan to get Lawrence and own the division for the rest of the decade as Brady and Brees retire, he might have fired Hurney sooner and had the top pick. Yes, I’m kidding, I know Tepper doesn’t read this stuff, but I will say my plan was better than what the Hurndog did this year.

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

@Jeremy Igo, can we get a filter on "Hurney"?

Something like "He who must not be named" or "Bad Man" or "3 winning seasons in 14 years"?

"The Bad Man" works for me.

That, plus autocorrect always screws when you try to type "Hurney" anyway.

[Rocky Davis]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

"The Bad Man" works for me.

That, plus autocorrect always screws when you try to type "Hurney" anyway.

Damn, you are right......

[Mr. Scot]

Some info from Ian Rapoport on WFNZ this morning:

- Hurney's departure has actually been in the weeds for months, not just weeks

- Primary reason for being let go is failure to mesh with Matt Rhule

- Likely candidates: Ed Dodds, Lake Dawson, Nick Caserio, Adam Peters, Jeff Ireland

- Panthers GM position is considered a very desirable job

- Doesn't believe Kevin Colbert will be an option (thinks he'll retire). Brandon Hunt and Omar Khan, maybe but not as likely as others

- Has heard Dan Morgan mentioned as a GM candidate, but not in Carolina

- Does expect Marty Hurney to have a shot at the Washington GM job, says people are "connecting the dots" for good reason

[TheSpecialJuan]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Some info from Ian Rapoport on WFNZ this morning:

- Hurney's departure has actually been in the weeds for months, not just weeks

- Primary reason for being let go is failure to mesh with Matt Rhule

- Likely candidates: Ed Dodds, Lake Dawson, Nick Caserio, Adam Peters, Jeff Ireland

- Panthers GM position is considered a very desirable job

- Doesn't believe Kevin Colbert will be an option (thinks he'll retire). Brandon Hunt and Omar Khan, maybe but not as likely as others

- Has heard Dan Morgan mentioned as a GM candidate, but not in Carolina

- Does expect Marty Hurney to have a shot at the Washington GM job, says people are "connecting the dots" for good reason

Good stuff, I'd be happy with any of these candidates. 

[Rocky Davis]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Some info from Ian Rapoport on WFNZ this morning:

- Hurney's departure has actually been in the weeds for months, not just weeks

- Primary reason for being let go is failure to mesh with Matt Rhule

- Likely candidates: Ed Dodds, Lake Dawson, Nick Caserio, Adam Peters, Jeff Ireland

- Panthers GM position is considered a very desirable job

- Doesn't believe Kevin Colbert will be an option (thinks he'll retire). Brandon Hunt and Omar Khan, maybe but not as likely as others

- Has heard Dan Morgan mentioned as a GM candidate, but not in Carolina

- Does expect Marty Hurney to have a shot at the Washington GM job, says people are "connecting the dots" for good reason

Since Hurney has a shot at the WTF's GM job and maybe the gang is getting back together can we send them David Newton too?

[Jared Patterson]

I want Ed Dobbs. His pedigree/resume looks ridiculously good

[trueblade]

3 hours ago, Rocky Davis said:

I'm hoping the WTFs hire Hurney and reunite Dumb and Dumber......then with their QB situation shaky at best D&D will trade us a 3rd rounder for Groundwater.

A man can dream, can't he?

 

[ladypanther]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Some info from Ian Rapoport on WFNZ this morning:

- Hurney's departure has actually been in the weeds for months, not just weeks

- Primary reason for being let go is failure to mesh with Matt Rhule

 

lol...they made it sound like bringing Rhule in was Marty's idea.  I really never bought into that version of things.  Tepper knew this from the start...that Marty was not going to make it to the end of his contract. Change was a 2 step process.  There was a plan. Keeping someone who had crafted such a losing record was never a part of it.

[ladypanther]

28 minutes ago, trueblade said:

 

Trade?? Panthers can just leave him in DC.

[OldhamA]

6 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

Just listened to the Tepper presser on releasing Hurney. 

When asked about his differences with Hurney, he stated that they have different approaches to evaluation. For example, how does a player perform in the 4th quarter or on 2 minute drives.

Does anyone else feel like this is a clear shot at Hurney's evaluation of Teddy Bridgewater?

Lads, Bridgewater was Brady's call. Rhule backed him. 

[Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D.]

6 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Lads, Bridgewater was Brady's call. Rhule backed him. 

Possibly, but that contract was all Hurney

[HardcoreHokie]

Lots of writing on the wall from these new quotes and reports.  Timeline:

-GM’s contract up after 2020 season, won’t be retained further.  Need him as a bridge GM for a year as they continue to evaluate front office operations and potential candidates.

-Tepper fires Ron, GM doesn’t like it.

-New coach brought in, he will primarily run things, not the GM.

-Cam let go, GM doesn’t like it.

-Lots of bad contracts on the books.

-Teddy brought in, not working.

-Washington suddenly has a GM opening, mutual interest.  Makes sense to make the move now. Tepper says thanks for your help, now go get that job now. I’ll give you a very positive reference for Dan Snyder. 

-We’ll trade you Teddy once official (this one maybe a reach).

-We know who we’re gonna offer, but he may win a Super Bowl this year so we have to wait.

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This is all just a guess, piecing everything together, now that it’s all starting to come out.  (I have no sources aside from these threads lol)

Go Panthers (play well but please lose out)

[panthers55]

On 12/23/2020 at 4:53 PM, ladypanther said:

lol...they made it sound like bringing Rhule in was Marty's idea.  I really never bought into that version of things.  Tepper knew this from the start...that Marty was not going to make it to the end of his contract. Change was a 2 step process.  There was a plan. Keeping someone who had crafted such a losing record was never a part of it.

I thought all the time that the plan was to dump Rivera and bring in Rhule last off-season and keep Hurney for continuity until Rhule had experience and could run the show.  I bet Marty did help recruit Rhule. He was the best coach choice and I bet they didn't know they would clash at the time. Hurney is just old school and we have a new age owner and coach. It was time to move on.