Boston has opinions on Cam

[Cpt slay a ho]

4 minutes ago, onmyown said:

But why has he been benched twice by BB, thrown 10 interceptions, and misses wide open receivers?

The two times he was benched is when the game was out of reach, real question is why hasn’t he switch qbs yet if he’s as bad as everyone is campaigning? It’s more to the patriots woes than hot takes and headlines 

[Ricky Spanish]

7 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

You conveniently leave out Aaron Jones and the Packers top 5 defense, even with that being stated do we really think cam is on the level rodgers is as a passer ? 
 

again, Brady also had the #1 dvoa on defense, compared to the current pats defense which is at 32 dvoa. 
 

he’s above his career high this year in completion percentage, I never understood how his incompletions get magnified compared to his peers. Every qb misses some throws.

wentz is benched for a reason, dude had more weapons than the pats and half the wins before he was benched, you’re making my point.

granted this year is nothing he wants to hang his hat on, but expecting any other qb not named Tom Brady, Aaron rodgers, or drew Brees  to find success with this current pats team is a pipe dream 

Where are you getting the Pack as a top 5 D, pretty much ever throughout Rodger's career? You can't go by yards, go by points. By points they are at 24.2 per game which is one point more than us which is middle of the pack. Also Aaron Jones wasn't utilized until last year, when McCarthy was finally gone. 

Pats had a great D last year. Won't argue against that. That definitely aided Brady last year. 

Completion percentage really doesn't mean crap man. Look at Teddy. He's 2nd in teh league. Big Whoop. Cam might be doing better than his normal, but he's also not being asked to make the long throws as often as he was under Shula. He's still missing a ton of easy throws. They're not placed well, he's bouncing them, etc.

Wentz this year sucks, I was talking about Wentz last year. Last year Wentz had no one and still did better than Cam. 

Yes the team around Cam isn't all that great but he's not helping anything either. Franchise QBs elevate the team around them. Teddy isn't doing it. Cam isn't doing it. 

[onmyown]

27 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

The two times he was benched is when the game was out of reach, real question is why hasn’t he switch qbs yet if he’s as bad as everyone is campaigning? It’s more to the patriots woes than hot takes and headlines 

Teams don’t bench their QB because games are out of reach...I’ve never heard of that. And he hasn’t switched QBs because Stidman. Cam gives him the best chance just as TB does for us but as we know that doesn’t mean anything. Everyone campaigning but everyone is wrong? That’s a lot of people. I don’t think so.
 

If cam was that great he’d be resigned, but I’d bet you everything to my name he’s going to be a FA. And this still doesn’t explain his 10 interceptions, despite missing multiple games and doesn’t explain him completely missing throws. We aren’t talking occasionally missing passes, if this were the case we should all think TB is great. He is consistently missing easy passes to open players.

It could be entirely possible that Cam is no longer and effective or starter caliber QB because of these reasons. It just could be why.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

pretty tough to evaluate a guy in that shitshow (without even going into the potential effects of covid) but he has made strong throws when guys have been open. only one patriots receiver is in the top 50 in average separation (35th) with the second best coming in at 57th. separation isn’t the end all be all but they don’t have a single receiver who is particularly skilled in any other way either. their leading receiver (statistically) is a scrub we’re all familiar with: damiere byrd. just a terrible set of weapons. cam hasn’t been benched because cam has given them the best chance to win. bill knew that. his stat line is suffering because cam (being perhaps the greatest short yardage threat in the history of the league) is a better bet using his legs in goal to go situations than counting on byrd, myers or harry to make a play.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

1 hour ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Brady last year with the same level of WR talent had Phil Dorsett, Edelman and Mohammed Sanu. Took them to the Playoffs. 

edelman was a 1000 yard receiver last year and was well on his way to that mark through two games this year. unfortunately he hurt his knee week 1 and it obviously affected him in the weeks after his week 2 explosion against seattle, ultimately requiring surgery. tom brady absolutely had a better set of receivers for that reason alone. cam’s leading receiver is damiere fugin byrd lol

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

also just because i found it interesting: according to nfl next gen stats cam’s longest completed air distance ranks 8th among quarterbacks. he has completed a pass that traveled 58 yards through the air from release to catch. for reference, teddy ranks 32nd among quarterbacks at 48.5. but for weeks we heard “tEddY cAnt thrOw dEEp” every time he crow hopped into a 30 yard rainbow. meanwhile check the general game threads and it’s “oh poor cam the guy just can’t throw more than 10 yards downfield”

given what we know the most critical stance to reasonably take is that he’s not making damiere byrd and co look like pro bowlers and hey, fair enough, after 14 games those guys still look like dogshit. if you want to try to pin that on the quarterback then be my guest. they just look like shitty football players to me but i know this forum thrives on pretending shitty football players are actually good for non football related reasons. nothing new there.

[MasterAwesome]

[Cpt slay a ho]

9 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Where are you getting the Pack as a top 5 D, pretty much ever throughout Rodger's career? You can't go by yards, go by points. By points they are at 24.2 per game which is one point more than us which is middle of the pack. Also Aaron Jones wasn't utilized until last year, when McCarthy was finally gone. 

Pats had a great D last year. Won't argue against that. That definitely aided Brady last year. 

Completion percentage really doesn't mean crap man. Look at Teddy. He's 2nd in teh league. Big Whoop. Cam might be doing better than his normal, but he's also not being asked to make the long throws as often as he was under Shula. He's still missing a ton of easy throws. They're not placed well, he's bouncing them, etc.

Wentz this year sucks, I was talking about Wentz last year. Last year Wentz had no one and still did better than Cam. 

Yes the team around Cam isn't all that great but he's not helping anything either. Franchise QBs elevate the team around them. Teddy isn't doing it. Cam isn't doing it. 

You were referring to the packers last year, last year there defense was top 5, and Aaron Jones went off. 

Wentz had more to work with than the current pats.

his days of elevating jags to pro bowlers are behind him, he just needs to hover in that top 10-12 range and he’ll be ok.  The pats team is a bad team, one of the worst defenses couple with one of the worst receivers core in football, team needed a top 5 qb currently to get them Into the playoffs, cam isn’t that and that’s fine but I’m seeing so called better qbs field a worst record with better weapons This is even after a limited offseason and having covid.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Cam is done and the Panthers organization knew he was done. Give them credit for cutting his ass 

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

6 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

just another in a long line of white noise posters who have thrown the defense, the offensive line, the wide receivers and the coaches under the bus as needed to defend precious teddy from well earned criticism. just check the post history. or better yet don’t because they’re a complete waste of time. you people aren’t smart enough to pull this type of thing off. you will always lack the needed subtlety. go post more stupid bullshit for everyone to scroll past. and definitely keep posting the nazi frog from 4chan dude you’re killing it with that

[Cpt slay a ho]

55 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Teams don’t bench their QB because games are out of reach...I’ve never heard of that. And he hasn’t switched QBs because Stidman. Cam gives him the best chance just as TB does for us but as we know that doesn’t mean anything. Everyone campaigning but everyone is wrong? That’s a lot of people. I don’t think so.
 

If cam was that great he’d be resigned, but I’d bet you everything to my name he’s going to be a FA. And this still doesn’t explain his 10 interceptions, despite missing multiple games and doesn’t explain him completely missing throws. We aren’t talking occasionally missing passes, if this were the case we should all think TB is great. He is consistently missing easy passes to open players.

It could be entirely possible that Cam is no longer and effective or starter caliber QB because of these reasons. It just could be why.

There’s been numerous games where the starting qbs is pulled during a blowout that’s not abnormal 

that’s my point you and other are clamoring about how bad cams mechanics, how done his arm is ect ect yet the guys behind him aren’t getting opportunities, even with the pats playoff chances all but done they still haven’t switch to stid yet. 
 

cam is missing the same passes I’m seeing your Matt Ryan’s and Matt Stafford miss. He very well may get resigned with the pats, it’s still in the air. The tone that he’s a mate peterman esc is hyperbole 

[micnificent28]

More cam bashing. I can't even consider this nonsense since his number one receiver is Jacobi Myers whoever that is. Blaming cam for anything in a complete rebuild is pointless. He got a bad deal.

[GoobyPls]

Meh if you have been involved in any sports forum through the years you have known Patriots fans have always hated Cam. They hate Cam like he’s a divisional rival.

[1of10Charnatives]

7 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I thought we were going to find out what Tre Boston thought about Cam.  lol

That would never happen. Boston is so quiet and reserved in his demeanor.