They may not be thinking QB

[TLGPanthersFan]

6 hours ago, jdr6000 said:

This guy gets it. When they improve the o-line, get CMC back, and continue to add to the defense, the phrase “we need a QB” will be long gone. Good chance that by middle of next year the Panthers turn the corner. Remember, this is an entire new team that had no offseason prep time together. They aren’t going to ditch Teddy with all that has happened this year. They will be smart and continue to put in pieces. And the timing will be perfect because when all the pieces are in place, Brady and Brees will be done and the Falcons QB will be on the way out, leaving the Panthers with the best team in the south as well as the youngest. You see, the key is patience and perspective.

Bridgewaters contract is designed to be cut after next year. Adding all those “pieces” isn’t going to make him a better QB. He is always going to hold this team back with his pathetic QB play. 
Panthers are going to lose fans if that limp duck is still the QB and there is no plans to replace him. 
So no, needing a QB won’t be long gone. We need a real franchise QB not fugging Teddy Duckwater. 

[Khyber53]

8 hours ago, mickeye76 said:

Taking a qb then grooming him or if teddy continues to have lapses of judgement put him in makes sense.  If we could have scored ten more pts or not had some turnovers we would have won many more games.

Or gotten a defensive stop or two along the way... Remember we had games this year where the opponent never punted. I don't care if you have 30 year old Joe Montana or Peyton Manning as your QB, if you can't make a team punt at least once, you are going to lose.

If your defense plays like we did in the second half of this past week, then you can win a Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer as your QB, just like Tampa did back in the day. 

Teddy has been underwhelming to say the least, but no QB can win if your defense threatens dropping a 40-pointer on you on any given week. 

[kungfoodude]

6 hours ago, NavyVet said:

The Panthers played one heck of defensive football in the second half yesterday...But did u see the first half? Aaron Jones had 114 yatds at the half. The week before they let one of the lowest rated QB's in the NFL Drew Lock pick them apart. They Let Kurt Cousins go 75 yards in less than a minute on them. The defense have some great pieces in Chinn,Brown, Burns and YGM...Imagine what a stud linebacker and another attacking defensive tackle could do for this team. In the first two rounds that would be my picks.

Well, we are lucky that you aren't our GM and  are wasting draft capital because you have zero concept of positional value in the NFL. 

[Pimpdaddy]

9 hours ago, NavyVet said:

I'm not against drafting a QB if its Lawrence ot Fileds. But Trask, Matt Jones or Lance do not move me. I'd rather fortify the team in other areas. In my opinion the Panthers are 2 years from rally bringing the noise. By then whoever they put behind center will have success.  Please check the resume of QB's that come from OSU, FLA and Alabama.  

to me, fields is a total waste of a pick...

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

9 hours ago, joemac said:

I think the plan was always to be competitive, but ultimately lose this season. Then get a high draft pick and draft our QB. Have him sit a year under Teddy then take over in 2022. We’re right on track. Actually I think they were shooting for Lawrence, but we somehow won 3 in a row.

Signing Teddy immediately put us out of the Trevor race. I knew it when it happened. He is good enough for a few wins. That is the colossal mistake this franchise made. Will Grier would have almost guaranteed Lawrence. If we don’t get a franchise QB this year or next, and Lawrence takes the league by storm, I will never forget their decision to sign Teddy.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, we are lucky that you aren't our GM and  are wasting draft capital because you have zero concept of positional value in the NFL. 

Unfortunately, the guy who still has the GM position at least in title has also always displayed stunning lack of awareness of positional value. There's a reason why the Panthers have struggled mightily through most of their history at premium positions like OT, CB, and outside of the Smitty/Moose years WR until recently while having a glut of talent at LB and RB. Hell, you can add QB to that list too. We've had Jake, Cam, and straight up trash other than those two guys.

[jdr6000]

This is a great thread with great posts....mostly

[philit99]

A franchise Quarterback is a subjective stance. A great quarterback on a rotten team will make almost no difference, example Baker Mayfield. You can win with a great team and average Quarterback, example Denver against us. If we are truly rebuilding it will take more than one year. Do we think the future franchise Quarterback is in this draft, I am not sure. I know I would not take an average Quarterback if the one we want is gone by the time we pick. There are other pieces we can put in place, now to become competitive next year. If you really want a franchise Quarterback you are looking at a minimum of three to four years to become competitive. Get the team right first then worry about the Quarterback.

[Jon Snow]

10 hours ago, The Huddler said:

perfect scenario to get a high upside QB to sit and learn behind teddy

 

I would prefer any new young QB that they draft NOT learn from Teddy myself.

[shaqattaq]

11 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

yeah nah

rhule was pissed with teddy last night

and last week, and the week before.

[Harbingers]

11 hours ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

yeah nah

rhule was pissed with teddy last night

Rhule should be pissed at himself. Remember the process?

[LinvilleGorge]

17 minutes ago, philit99 said:

A franchise Quarterback is a subjective stance. A great quarterback on a rotten team will make almost no difference, example Baker Mayfield. You can win with a great team and average Quarterback, example Denver against us. If we are truly rebuilding it will take more than one year. Do we think the future franchise Quarterback is in this draft, I am not sure. I know I would not take an average Quarterback if the one we want is gone by the time we pick. There are other pieces we can put in place, now to become competitive next year. If you really want a franchise Quarterback you are looking at a minimum of three to four years to become competitive. Get the team right first then worry about the Quarterback.

The Browns are 10-4 this year and have an overall winning record with Mayfield and have won no less than 6 games with him in a season. In the 10 seasons prior to Mayfield they only accomplished 6+ wins once. I don't think the Mayfield/Browns example is the one you want to use.

[Sgt Schultz]

I want them to draft who Rhule and his staff thinks best fills one of our many voids for the foreseeable future.  That may or may not be a QB.  Lawrence has been regarded by some as one of two NFL-ready players in this draft.  Sewell is the other.  And those given that distinction have bombed out before.

The list of positions this roster needs severe help with is larger than the list of positions we are set at.  And keep in mind, given our history of retaining talent, those we are set at could grow smaller in the offseason unless a certain person is given a retirement watch as a Christmas present, whether he wants it or not.
 

[philit99]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Browns are 10-4 this year and have an overall winning record with Mayfield and have won no less than 6 games with him in a season. In the 10 seasons prior to Mayfield they only accomplished 6+ wins once. I don't think the Mayfield/Browns example is the one you want to use.

Exactly, how long has Baker been in the league? Baker is who I want to use, if it takes you 3 seasons to make the playoffs. You know our fans have no patience in waiting an additional 2-3 years.