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They may not be thinking QB


Jmac

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1 hour ago, Jmac said:

Many assume a QB will be the first pick. How about if that is wrong. How about if Rhule, Hurney, and Tepper aren't thinking that at all. Maybe they have a completely different strategy then is assumed.

They signed a QB they believed in. Are they going to kick him to the curb after one crazy season? Think you guys may be disappointed with what they will do. 

 

I think the plan was always to be competitive, but ultimately lose this season. Then get a high draft pick and draft our QB. Have him sit a year under Teddy then take over in 2022. We’re right on track. Actually I think they were shooting for Lawrence, but we somehow won 3 in a row.

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28 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

So...Jets get a new coach...they have lots of needs. They tell Cinci they will take Sewell unless Cinci want to trade picks to get him.  They do...now with the 3rd pick..the Jets find a QB needy team that wants to trade up.Suddenly the Jets have a boatload of draft picks for the next 2 years.

Just a thought.

I had a similar thought on the Jags now have the #1 pick thread.  The Jets need a lot, and parlaying the #2 pick into a boatload of picks this year and next would be a good outcome for them.  Of course, they will proceed to screw it up, but that's just what they do.

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37 minutes ago, NavyVet said:

I'm not against drafting a QB if its Lawrence ot Fileds. But Trask, Matt Jones or Lance do not move me. I'd rather fortify the team in other areas. In my opinion the Panthers are 2 years from rally bringing the noise. By then whoever they put behind center will have success.  Please check the resume of QB's that come from OSU, FLA and Alabama.  

This guy gets it. When they improve the o-line, get CMC back, and continue to add to the defense, the phrase “we need a QB” will be long gone. Good chance that by middle of next year the Panthers turn the corner. Remember, this is an entire new team that had no offseason prep time together. They aren’t going to ditch Teddy with all that has happened this year. They will be smart and continue to put in pieces. And the timing will be perfect because when all the pieces are in place, Brady and Brees will be done and the Falcons QB will be on the way out, leaving the Panthers with the best team in the south as well as the youngest. You see, the key is patience and perspective.

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The Panthers played one heck of defensive football in the second half yesterday...But did u see the first half? Aaron Jones had 114 yatds at the half. The week before they let one of the lowest rated QB's in the NFL Drew Lock pick them apart. They Let Kurt Cousins go 75 yards in less than a minute on them. The defense have some great pieces in Chinn,Brown, Burns and YGM...Imagine what a stud linebacker and another attacking defensive tackle could do for this team. In the first two rounds that would be my picks.

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I am 100% on the QB train if there is one the coaches like.

However, if we go another direction, there are only 3 options that I like. 

Option 1 is to take Micah Parsons. Some hate the idea of a LB this early, he would change their minds. Amazing talent.

Option 2, trade back grabbing another teams 1st and their 2nd. Draft Dannisaw with the later 1st, and finally have LT spot filled. Fill 2 more spots in the 2nd round, hopefully Jevon Holland is one of the picks.

Option 3, trade back getting the other teams 1st this year, and their 1st next year. Draft Dannisaw this year, have 2 1st next year.

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3 minutes ago, NavyVet said:

The Panthers played one heck of defensive football in the second half yesterday...But did u see the first half? Aaron Jones had 114 yatds at the half. The week before they let one of the lowest rated QB's in the NFL Drew Lock pick them apart. They Let Kurt Cousins go 75 yards in less than a minute on them. The defense have some great pieces in Chinn,Brown, Burns and YGM...Imagine what a stud linebacker and another attacking defensive tackle could do for this team. In the first two rounds that would be my picks.

great so what pick are the panthers gonna have when you're ready to take one of these future QBs that you personally like

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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

This point should be made, and it is valid.  I would argue that we have to step back and see the big picture--and to see it clearly, you have to look at the situation when Rhule took over. 

  • They knew Cam was shot.  So did most teams in the NFL--or he would have been signed to a long-term deal. 

 

True that.

The I-hate-Teddy crowd is mutually inclusive with the we-shoulda-kept-Cam crowd...

...dodging the $200M+ extension they were all pining & advocating for looks like a pretty darn good decision by Tepper/Hurney/Rhule right about now. 

 

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8 hours ago, Jmac said:

Many assume a QB will be the first pick. How about if that is wrong. How about if Rhule, Hurney, and Tepper aren't thinking that at all. Maybe they have a completely different strategy then is assumed.

They signed a QB they believed in. Are they going to kick him to the curb after one crazy season? Think you guys may be disappointed with what they will do. 

 

They signed a qb they either A) believed in at the time. or B) believed could be an effective bridge to their qb of the future or C) thought B was most likely while leaving themselves an extra year on the deal if TB turned out to be said qb. Either way, nothing about a 3 year deal where almost all of the money is front loaded in the first 2 years for the lower end of the going rate for starting qb's says they were absolutely and without reservation sold on TB as the future of the franchise at the position.

They're not going to kick him to the curb after one season, but they can easily do so after 2 if they decide to, and given that Rhule's track record and Tepper's own words make it clear we shouldn't really expect to be a force to be reckoned with until year 3 at a minimum, I'm not all that super disappointed.  At this point do I enjoy watching Teddy checkdown do his checkdown thing? 

Not really but I don't think it's any great derailment of the plan either and this was never going to be a competitive season for us. I also don't think there is anything about what they've done that says they won't seriously consider a qb if the right qb is available in the draft.

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