Trey Lance, not Kyle Trask, is the other QB we should be talking about

[SCPantherFan90]

1 minute ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Idk if this is sarcasm or not but I mean... exactly lol. Anytime a QB has this combination you buy at least some stock into them

I'm half joking, but in agreement. I'm in the same camp as you. Swing for the fences with the guys who have the ability to do it all.

[AU-panther]

10 minutes ago, Growl said:

If Jones wins the heisman/comes close and then destroys the CFP, that's the guy were going to be talking about throughout the draft process, probably moreso than the guy who didn't play this season

 

not saying it's right or wrong, I really don't know the answer to that, but it is what it is.

As I've said, you don't check off all those boxes and then quietly go 5th or 6th in your position group, that just doesn't happen

winning a Heisman isn't really a box that predicts success at the next level

[shaqattaq]

16 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

I also have Mac Jones over Trask.

Jones is intriguing to me. He could actually be there at 37 according to some mocks. If we could get Surtain in the first and him in the 2nd, if be stoked.

[Varking]

4 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

Jones is intriguing to me. He could actually be there at 37 according to some mocks. If we could get Surtain in the first and him in the 2nd, if be stoked.

He’s too close to good player on the best team so he looks good.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Idk if this is sarcasm or not but I mean... exactly lol. Anytime a QB has this combination you buy at least some stock into them

I honestly don't.

Eric Crouch was a guy with amazing physical skills, but he wasn't a quarterback at the pro level.

Physical skills fade faster than others do, especially for quarterbacks that take a lot of punishment.

I put those skills in the "nice to have" category, but if you don't have the more essential quarterbacking skills first, it's gravy with no potatoes.

Finding an athlete is easy. Finding a quarterback is a lot harder

[Growl]

8 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

winning a Heisman isn't really a box that predicts success at the next level

wow, you got me, that is exactly what I said in my last post and you've offered a precise rebuttal in turn

[stbugs]

9 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Lance > Lawrence ...... dont @ me 

Hahahahahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, needed that. It’s OK to say we have no chance at Lawrence and that if we want a QB we are settling for a level below that. Unfortunately, Lawrence won’t do anything at the combine because I’d love to see his 40. The ND DBs weren’t making up any ground on his TD run. @LinvilleGorge mentioned before that Lance isn’t really fast so I’d have to say there may be nothing that Lance is better at than Lawrence is.

I’d be happy with Fields, Wilson or Lance if we really like them, but after this season’s games including yesterday, Lawrence has absolutely shown he’s a level above those 3.

[Varking]

2 minutes ago, Growl said:

wow, you got me, that is exactly what I said in my last post and you've offered a precise rebuttal in turn

In your defense, the last 5 heisman winners are all having success in the NFL. 

[Growl]

5 minutes ago, Varking said:

In your defense, the last 5 heisman winners are all having success in the NFL. 

thanks, I needed this information to reinforce my position

[Basbear]

4 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Hahahahahahahahaha. Thanks for the laugh, needed that. It’s OK to say we have no chance at Lawrence and that if we want a QB we are settling for a level below that. Unfortunately, Lawrence won’t do anything at the combine because I’d love to see his 40. The ND DBs weren’t making up any ground on his TD run. @LinvilleGorge mentioned before that Lance isn’t really fast so I’d have to say there may be nothing that Lance is better at than Lawrence is.

I’d be happy with Fields, Wilson or Lance if we really like them, but after this season’s games including yesterday, Lawrence has absolutely shown he’s a level above those 3.

Others echo this or have in the past, people with loads more draft knowledge than both of us. Im not going to let Lances one bad game cloud my judgement nor allow other top QBs privilege to play right now either. DJ spoke about his reasons for ranking lance over Lawrence early on here- https://www.si.com/college/clemson/football/nfl-draft-trevor-lawrence-clemson-justin-fields-trey-lance

 

[Varking]

3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Others echo this or have in the past, people with loads more draft knowledge than both of us. Im not going to let Lances one bad game cloud my judgement nor allow other top QBs privilege to play right now either. DJ spoke about his reasons for ranking lance over Lawrence early on here- https://www.si.com/college/clemson/football/nfl-draft-trevor-lawrence-clemson-justin-fields-trey-lance

 

It was just for hits.And yeah I believe he ran a 4.9 when he got to NDSU. 

[AU-panther]

15 minutes ago, Growl said:

wow, you got me, that is exactly what I said in my last post and you've offered a precise rebuttal in turn

I'll give you that you said "right or wrong", but my response was in response to your statement that checking that box will cause him to not go 5th or 6th.

I'm not convinced that by him winning the Heisman he will go in the top 4.

 

 

[ForJimmy]

31 minutes ago, SCPantherFan90 said:

He big. He fast. He throw ball really far.

And he threw 0 INTs his first season as a redshirted freshman while winning a championship. Yeah it was against weaker competition, but so did Steve Young, Steve McNair, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo, Jake Delhomme, Carson Wentz, Josh Allen, and Big Ben just to name a few.

[Basbear]

5 minutes ago, Varking said:

It was just for hits.And yeah I believe he ran a 4.9 when he got to NDSU. 

Rumors are hes faster, I believe they claim hes a 4.6 guy(I dont). I seen Daniel Jones in all his glory run away form DBs this year, hes a 4.6 guy. Besides Im not thinking he can do a 2015 cam/2019 lamar impression, just extending plays is what I believe hes able to give.  He should got faster since his freshman year too.