For all you tankers out there...we are now sitting at #5

[Pup McBarky]

5 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Would you trade back If Sewell and Surtain and Parsons were there ?? Not sure about being so ready to trade out of a top 5 pick because it's rare to be drafting that high 

I know the question isn't directed at me, but I'd take Sewell if he fell, otherwise, I'd look at trading back and try to get someone's later first and second. Then I'd hope Jones falls to whatever first round pick and if not, take the best LT/CB on the board. I know everyone is talking about Sewell as if it's a one-man LT class, but there are some very good LT candidates in this draft. I think we can get a really good QB prospect and a really good LT prospect.

 

[WarPanthers89]

I think no matter what we end up with a top 10 pick. I don’t care if we do get the #4 ranked QB...if you believe he can be our franchise pick after sitting a year you take him. Being able to get a franchise QB without trading away future 1st round picks or 2/3 of the same years picks is huge. Many teams do that and it hurts them if they miss on the pick. We can go QB and load up on o line talents round 2/3 and sit pretty.

[Shocker]

39 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

There's no such thing as too rich a spot if you really believe he's your franchise QB. Doesn't matter where or how you get him If he's the truth . That's how important it is to have your franchise QB.

There's been several teams that trade the farm to get a qb and if you drafted a good one without trades that a huge win. Especially considering we'd still have high picks in the remaining rounds .

Sure but there have been ALOT of examples where reaching for a QB in the top 5 has set teams back for years.  If Wilson is a franchise QB I totally agree with you but the jury is out atp IMO.

[WarPanthers89]

Just now, Shocker said:

Sure but there have been ALOT of examples where reaching for a QB in the top 5 has set teams back for years.  If Wilson is a franchise QB I totally agree with you but the jury is out atp IMO.

It won’t set you back years if you are not trading away draft capital to get to the top 5. You are only out a first round pick and you are not crippled financially. 

[TheMaulClaw]

1 hour ago, Hoenheim said:

Would you trade back If Sewell and Surtain and Parsons were there ?? Not sure about being so ready to trade out of a top 5 pick because it's rare to be drafting that high 

Probably not for Sewell but yeah depending on what we got back. If we got offered an extra 2nd then absolutely.

[Hoenheim]

I hate the arguments that rest on the fact that many qb busts have been traded up for . There's always a chance ANY player coming out of college could be a bust. 

If you believe he's your guy take him . Especially in our situation we shouldn't even need to trade up . We can just sit at 5 , take a qb If the right one falls to 5, or just go bpa otherwise. 

[Snake]

3 hours ago, stbugs said:

Yes, you are correct about the in between stuff but SOS is far and away the main driver. Also, if we both lose our our division records will be identical, 1-5. They will have 1 more AFC win so our conference record will be better. If those tiebreakers are like SOS where the worse team gets ahead then we’d lose that tiebreaker. Tankathon has us ahead because technically Atlanta has a better division record now but they’d be the same if we both lose out.

That said if we both lose out, we played Arizona and Washington and Atlanta played Seattle and Dallas. Those teams last 3 games determine our fate and if somehow they finish exactly the same, not likely since we play Washington, then the other tiebreakers matter and we’d lose. So you were right about the extra tiebreakers before the coin flip and wrong about us having the advantage of we lose out.

We also want know our SOS until all games are played because it's ever changing. While you're right we have a harder path right now doesn't always mean we will when the season ends. The Falcons will probably play a Bucs team that is resting players because they are out of the first round bye competition while NO will be looking to win. Also Morris will love to beat the Bucs because it would get him closer to a job next year. Both Dallas and Atlanta have a need to win while we really don't. But yes looking at the numbers we had a much harder year than ATL and it's probably not going to flip 10 spots in 3 weeks. 

[stbugs]

38 minutes ago, Snake said:

We also want know our SOS until all games are played because it's ever changing. While you're right we have a harder path right now doesn't always mean we will when the season ends. The Falcons will probably play a Bucs team that is resting players because they are out of the first round bye competition while NO will be looking to win. Also Morris will love to beat the Bucs because it would get him closer to a job next year. Both Dallas and Atlanta have a need to win while we really don't. But yes looking at the numbers we had a much harder year than ATL and it's probably not going to flip 10 spots in 3 weeks. 

I’m with you, I think Atlanta has a much better shot at winning a game. If we both lose out we need to hope that Washington/Arizona do worse than Seattle/Dallas because SOS is the only way we’d get a 4-12 tiebreaker. Atlanta and we will have the same division record and they’d have a better (for draft slot) conference record at 4-12.

[Pup McBarky]

8 minutes ago, bull123 said:

31-3 Clemson...still in Q3

Clemson shredding ND defense...and can’t score on Clemson def

Yeah. They are. I think part of it is ND's defense getting gassed because the offense can't stay on the field, but a bigger part is Clemson is just whipping them.