"Great Evaluator of talent"

[DaveThePanther2008]

8 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Rhule could of vetoed the Teddy move but didn't so he deserves plenty of blame. 

Rhule was probably taking the advice of Brady.   Remember Brady worked with him in N.O.  I would say that blame goes to all 3. Brady for asking for him, Rhule agreeing and Hurney for an insane contract. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Rhule was probably taking the advice of Brady.   Remember Brady worked with him in N.O.  I would say that blame goes to all 3. Brady for asking for him, Rhule agreeing and Hurney for an insane contract. 

We can all invent stories of how it went down but none of us actually know. 

It's really not worth even debating or speculating on. I don't care who ultimately gets the blame, it doesn't change the decision. 

[Shotgun]

5 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Rhule was probably taking the advice of Brady.   Remember Brady worked with him in N.O.  I would say that blame goes to all 3. Brady for asking for him, Rhule agreeing and Hurney for an insane contract. 

Well obviously our coaching staff and front office are awful at evaluating qbs. Oh well.

[DaveThePanther2008]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We can all invent stories of how it went down but none of us actually know. 

It's really not worth even debating or speculating on. I don't care who ultimately gets the blame, it doesn't change the decision. 

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.  It's an opinion.  It's what most of us do here. 

2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Well obviously our coaching staff and front office are awful at evaluating qbs. Oh well.

The idea of bring in a QB that worked with the first time OC isn't a bad idea.  My biggest reason why I don't care much for TB is that he can't or won't throw deep.  If he does it's a crapshoot if he's going to be on target or under throw it.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.  It's an opinion.  It's what most of us do here. 

The idea of bring in a QB that worked with the first time OC isn't a bad idea.  My biggest reason why I don't care much for TB is that he can't or won't throw deep.  If he does it's a crapshoot if he's going to be on target or under throw it.

I dont fault anyone for it.  His contract is such that he gets cut after next year and its nothing.  Hopefully Teddy can mentor whoever we take in the draft and down the road we go.  We are still about 1-2 drafts away from having a stable roster and thats if we have a lot of hits.

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I dont fault anyone for it.  His contract is such that he gets cut after next year and its nothing.  Hopefully Teddy can mentor whoever we take in the draft and down the road we go.  We are still about 1-2 drafts away from having a stable roster and thats if we have a lot of hits.

I'm not sure who else was after TB, I heard Chicago but I think we could have offered much less and gotten him onboard.  That said, I wish Chicago would have offered more money.

[ladypanther]

Hoping our rookie coaches can learn from their mistakes.  Rhule seems like that kind of guy.  We will find out.

[MasterAwesome]

23 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Rhule was probably taking the advice of Brady.   Remember Brady worked with him in N.O.  I would say that blame goes to all 3. Brady for asking for him, Rhule agreeing and Hurney for an insane contract. 

Can't you apply that same kind of logic to the draft as well?  Hurney took the advice of Rhule but ultimately still had to agree to the selection (he is the GM, after all).  Therefore why wouldn't credit for the draft be given to both Rhule and Hurney?

Your willingness to give Rhule full credit for the draft while choosing to divvy up the blame for a poor FA signing seems inconsistent, like you're adapting your logic to produce whatever narrative is most charitable to Rhule and subsequently least charitable to Hurney.

[kungfoodude]

21 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.  It's an opinion.  It's what most of us do here. 

The idea of bring in a QB that worked with the first time OC isn't a bad idea.  My biggest reason why I don't care much for TB is that he can't or won't throw deep.  If he does it's a crapshoot if he's going to be on target or under throw it.

Yeah but a lot of you buffoons keep inventing behind the scenes scenarios and then marrying yourselves to them in very odd and moronic ways. Then you proceed to assign blame based literally on nothing. 

I don't understand it but I also have a functioning brain, so I guess that is why.

[Shotgun]

24 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Thanks for pointing out the obvious.  It's an opinion.  It's what most of us do here. 

The idea of bring in a QB that worked with the first time OC isn't a bad idea.  My biggest reason why I don't care much for TB is that he can't or won't throw deep.  If he does it's a crapshoot if he's going to be on target or under throw it.

Unless its a backup level qb that you paid starter money for.

[Shotgun]

20 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I'm not sure who else was after TB, I heard Chicago but I think we could have offered much less and gotten him onboard.  That said, I wish Chicago would have offered more money.

I just wish we had better decision makers running our team.  

[Mr. Scot]

59 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We can all invent stories of how it went down but none of us actually know. 

It's really not worth even debating or speculating on. I don't care who ultimately gets the blame, it doesn't change the decision. 

Rhule did actually share a few details about the acquisition of Bridgewater.

He mentioned specifically that not just Joe Brady but cornerback coach Evan Cooper helped recommend Bridgewater. I forget where Cooper knew him from, maybe his time with the Bears.

Granted, it sounds unusual to have a quarterback recommendation from a cornerback coach.

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

Just curious, do you think Rhule was in charge of the draft and Hurney was in charge of FA?  Or do you think Rhule had final say on both?

None of the above.

Any important decision/s of this nature are made collectively between Tepper/Hurney/Rhule...they work it out together until all are on the same page.  

In the event they can't find a way to get on the same page Tepper hears the evidence and makes the final call.

That's how it works in the Appaloosa Model. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

None of the above.

Any important decision/s of this nature are made collectively between Tepper/Hurney/Rhule...they work it out together until all are on the same page.  

In the event they can't find a way to get on the same page Tepper hears the evidence and makes the final call.

That's how it works in the Appaloosa Model. 

OK OK OK OK you're an expert on Hedge Fund management. 

GIVE IT A REST. 

It's like an attachment to every post.  

Secondly I don't think he had the final say in Bridgewater but If you say so.