So what exactly does Marty Hurney do?

[saX man]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hurney decides who's in the Scouting department.

That, plus a lot of Hurney's biggest mistakes have been times when he ignored the scouting department and went on a hunch of his own.

Yes. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at? 

[Mr. Scot]

23 minutes ago, saX man said:

Yes. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at? 

Basically, that all the spin in the world isn't going to make him a good GM.

[saX man]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Basically, that all the spin in the world isn't going to make him a good GM.

Oh he’s definitely not. I just like looking at the staff and seeing who was part of his cohort. They are also a part of it. I’m so ready for someone new in this dept. What I’m saying is that it’s not just his draft days and FA but the staff going out, issuing player reports, etc.

not going to find a Hurney apologist in Sax lol. The dude is the squirrel of a furry crew. We need at least a bear.

[Peon Awesome]

I'm sure Marty Hurney has several roles, albeit with far less absolute control than he had in 2019, but definitely his most important is as the team shield.

Bad draft pick or free agent signing? Hurney had his fingers all over that one!

Overpaid a veteran on their contract extension? Hurney can't help himself!

Fail to negotiate an extension to an important piece? Hurney can't get it done.

Whether intentional or not (and Tepper is a smart guy, so you have to consider that it is) it's a brilliant move by Tepper. He knew Rhule's first year would have its bumps, because a) our roster was dismantled with tons of dead cap and b) that's been the case for all Rhule rebuilds. But you've already demonstrated a huge committment to Rhule. How do you get the fans to stay excited and get behind the new regime despite a 3rd straight losing year?

Well you get a half dozen people to chip away at Marty's role and slowly establish the new regime. BUT you leave him in place to be the scapegoat for every bad outcome. Then when his contract is over, you cut him loose to the riotous cheers of the fans who believe we have officially turned a new leaf and thrown out the last rotten apple, making our future so bright. Interest in the 2021 season will be at the highest it has been in years, regardless of whether or not much has actually changed within the front office.

[Mr. Scot]

The idea of Marty as a fall guy has been floated before.

Don't know if I buy it, but it's out there.

[thefuzz]

17 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Why not?  

Comp Picks.  Cap Space.

I'm not calling him a bad player, but not calling his signing "great" either.  Would have preferred to build vs. try to throw poo against the wall this season and hope something stuck.

 

[Toomers]

2 hours ago, Peon Awesome said:

I'm sure Marty Hurney has several roles, albeit with far less absolute control than he had in 2019, but definitely his most important is as the team shield.

Bad draft pick or free agent signing? Hurney had his fingers all over that one!

Overpaid a veteran on their contract extension? Hurney can't help himself!

Fail to negotiate an extension to an important piece? Hurney can't get it done.

Whether intentional or not (and Tepper is a smart guy, so you have to consider that it is) it's a brilliant move by Tepper. He knew Rhule's first year would have its bumps, because a) our roster was dismantled with tons of dead cap and b) that's been the case for all Rhule rebuilds. But you've already demonstrated a huge committment to Rhule. How do you get the fans to stay excited and get behind the new regime despite a 3rd straight losing year?

Well you get a half dozen people to chip away at Marty's role and slowly establish the new regime. BUT you leave him in place to be the scapegoat for every bad outcome. Then when his contract is over, you cut him loose to the riotous cheers of the fans who believe we have officially turned a new leaf and thrown out the last rotten apple, making our future so bright. Interest in the 2021 season will be at the highest it has been in years, regardless of whether or not much has actually changed within the front office.

Nailed it. This isn’t a Hurney thing. Rhule wants and has total control. He doesn’t want ANY GM who is going to have control of the roster. Or Andrew Berry would probably be the GM right now. Tepper gave him 9M/yr. He’s not going to make him go with someone else’s vision of team building. 
 

    The last decision that Hurney made was Shaqs contract. Everything since then, good or bad, is on Rhule.