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Hurney Scks ...Got it.. How do we fix it

DaveThePanther2008

By DaveThePanther2008,
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Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

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10 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

I don't claim to be an expert on "football" but I damn sure know how Tepper and his brethren run a business and you can be assured that as an organization the Panthers are adapting their job functions and daily activities to Tepper's model --- not vice-versa.

In the Appaloosa model there is no "GM" in the traditional sense (like Lynch or Beane) so all the hand-wringing and blaming as it goes to Hurndog is unnecessary and off-base.  Tepper will never hire a GM and give him powers akin to what Lynch & Beane have...

...that level of power only resides within one person --- Tepper himself.

Also, Marty is going nowhere.  Tepper's world hinges on a single key input --- information.  Marty is seen as an excellent source of information and Tepper will continue to utilize him in that role (as well as main PR guy on radio, etc) as long as Marty wants to do it.

Sit back and watch....

PS:  One of those 7 was a notable collector of modern art, want to guess which one?  His office was littered with $100's of millions of artwork, it was incredible (if you're ever in NYC go by the Lever House Building, now and then some of it still gets displayed in the lobby there).  Hint: He had to unwind the firm after the fed's targeted him, unfairly in the opinion of many.

You know I'm not reading all that crap, right?

(I guess you do now)

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SizzleBuzz

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

You gave yourself way too much credit, dude.

You've not refuted anything I have put forth.

Did it ever cross your mind, that, you know....maybe I'm right and know exactly what I speak of?

PS:  Aby Rosen and David Ganek were tight and are preeminent collectors in the world of modern art.  Ganek moved his firm out of Greenwich and into the Lever House Building, which was owned by Rosen until recently.  Both consistently displayed their art in the lobby and some of it was quite eye-opening! 

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nooe. Not once.

Quick Tip: I wouldn't bet on that having crossed anyone else's mind either.

LOL...a closed mind...in time despite your complete unwillingness to consider proper information that doesn't happen to dovetail with your narrow and uniformed viewpoint --- you will learn the truth. 

So let's get you on the record --- you're saying Hurndog will be exited, when will it happen?

When will Tepper install a traditional GM and vest within him powers akin to what Lynch & Beane have?  This is what you are saying is going to happen, right?

Please do tell ol' soothsayer...

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11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

@LinvilleGorge, is Toomers right? Is this Chuck? I thought one of our other current trolls was the latest rebirth of Chuck.

I have to admit this one kind of reminds me of one of our other repeat offenders. I just can't think of which one it is.

We're discussing Marty's prospects with the Panthers here...

...are you afraid to get on the record with an opinion on how the situation will progress?

Seems you are.

I've been very specific about what I think will take place --- let's get you on the record and then as time passes we'll see who actually had "insight" that was accurate...

...surely a "football expert" like yourself isn't afraid to get on the record?

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Mr. Scot

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1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

We're discussing Marty's prospects with the Panthers here...

...are you afraid to get on the record with an opinion on how the situation will progress?

Seems you are.

I've been very specific about what I think will take place --- let's get you on the record and then as time passes we'll see who actually had "insight" that was accurate...

...surely a "football expert" like yourself isn't afraid to get on the record?

We're not "discussing" anything. You're posting silliness that I'm pointing out is ridiculous.

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SizzleBuzz

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22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're not "discussing" anything. You're posting silliness that I'm pointing out is ridiculous.

You've offered up exactly nothing to support your opinion.

That said, let's discuss Marty.  My position is he will remain with the in a hybrid scouting/management/PR role and Tepper won't hire a traditional GM within whom traditional GM powers are vested.  The reason for this is Hurndog's skill-set fits well within the Appaloosa model that Tepper has overlaid on the Panthers (and Tepper has retained the GM powers for himself, and will continue to do so).

What's your position?  You are saying Marty will be gone, right?

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20 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I believe Joe person has actual sources whereas you have no real information whatsoever and are just making stuff up based on a TV show you watch.

if you actually think people are going to listen to this stuff, you should probably think again.

Are you saying Hurny has complete control?

What SizzleBuzz says actually makes sense.  Hurny makes some decisions, Rhule probably makes some, big decisions are collaborations between all of them with Tepper having final say so.

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

Are you saying Hurny has complete control?

What SizzleBuzz says actually makes sense.  Hurny makes some decisions, Rhule probably makes some, big decisions are collaborations between all of them with Tepper having final say so.

Based on what I've read about him, I question whether Matt Rhule would want to work in that environment.

When Rhule outlined what it would take to get him to the NFL, he made clear that he was looking for a coach centric approach similar to what guys like Belichick and Saban have.

I'm not sure whether he has that already, but I have a feeling he will at some point.

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