Hurney Scks ...Got it.. How do we fix it

[SizzleBuzz]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Based on what I've read about him, I question whether Matt Rhule would want to work in that environment.

When Rhule outlined what it would take to get him to the NFL, he made clear that he was looking for a coach centric approach similar to what guys like Belichick and Saban have.

I'm not sure whether he has that already, but I have a feeling he will at some point.

It's amazing what people will agree to when $63,000,000++ hangs in the balance.

There is Z-E-R-O chance Tepper will ever cede to anyone the amount of control Belichick currently has (Saban is not relevant, not in the NFL)...

...it's Tepper's world and he ain't simply along for the ride --- he's large and fully in-charge.   

[DaveThePanther2008]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Based on what I've read about him, I question whether Matt Rhule would want to work in that environment.

When Rhule outlined what it would take to get him to the NFL, he made clear that he was looking for a coach centric approach similar to what guys like Belichick and Saban have.

I'm not sure whether he has that already, but I have a feeling he will at some point.

I agree with you.  I am sure the Bill O'Brien fiasco definitely may have alter Tepper's timeline.  

So far Rhule hasn't made too many questionable moves.   

[AU-panther]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Based on what I've read about him, I question whether Matt Rhule would want to work in that environment.

When Rhule outlined what it would take to get him to the NFL, he made clear that he was looking for a coach centric approach similar to what guys like Belichick and Saban have.

I'm not sure whether he has that already, but I have a feeling he will at some point.

So Rhule has control? But Hurney overruled him? 

[Mr. Scot]

7 hours ago, AU-panther said:

So Rhule has control? But Hurney overruled him? 

So the story goes...

Ask yourself this, though: Which of the two of them is more likely to still be here in the near future?

[J.B.]

https://www.derp/2020/12/8/22162700/the-panthers-are-getting-major-value-from-mid-round-picks-on-rookie-contracts
 

hmmmm

[AU-panther]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So the story goes...

Ask yourself this, though: Which of the two of them is more likely to still be here in the near future?

That’s a different topic, I was trying to get an idea of which organizational structure was more likely.

Hurny with total control like you are suggesting or the one that SizzleBuzz is suggesting.

 

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, J.B. said:

https://www.derp/2020/12/8/22162700/the-panthers-are-getting-major-value-from-mid-round-picks-on-rookie-contracts
 

hmmmm

Uuuhhh...Yeah. That's a pretty dumb article.

Jermaine Carter is a JAG, Ian Thomas is nothing special and Troy Pride has been inconsistent. Bragging about those guys as "killing it" doesn't exactly show a lot of knowledge.

What seems to show even less knowledge though is that the writer apparently doesn't know Marty Hurney didn't run the 2017 draft.

[Mr. Scot]

14 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

That’s a different topic, I was trying to get an idea of which organizational structure was more likely.

Hurny with total control like you are suggesting or the one that SizzleBuzz is suggesting.

Not sure where you're getting that I said that unless you're going off what SB said.

But a quick FYI here: SB is a guy who's either been banned or changed IDs after making a fool of himself several times. His current silliness is to act like he knows what's going on inside the Panthers because he watches a TV show about billionaires on Showtime.

[Jared Patterson]

42 minutes ago, J.B. said:

https://www.derp/2020/12/8/22162700/the-panthers-are-getting-major-value-from-mid-round-picks-on-rookie-contracts
 

hmmmm

Lol who wrote this article? Some of those guys have potential, but absolutely none of that has benn shown to this point.

[MasterAwesome]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Uuuhhh...Yeah. That's a pretty dumb article.

Jermaine Carter is a JAG, Ian Thomas is nothing special and Troy Pride has been inconsistent. Bragging about those guys as "killing it" doesn't exactly show a lot of knowledge.

What seems to show even less knowledge though is that the writer apparently doesn't know Marty Hurney didn't run the 2017 draft.

I think it's too early to make any definitive judgments on Jermaine Carter, but I'm pretty excited from what I've seen these past few games since he's been given more opportunities. 

He has 21 tackles over the last 4 games while playing roughly 50% of defensive snaps.  If you extrapolate that over a 16-game season and with 100% of defensive snaps, that would project him to have 168 tackles by the end of the season which would be an NFL-best.

I get that this isn't an exact science, but this is the best objective tool we can use to put his performance in perspective as a full-time defensive starter.  I certainly haven't seen anything out of him that would sway me towards an underwhelming impression of "this dude's a JAG"...I feel like we're just naturally dismissive of him because he's a relative nobody.

[SizzleBuzz]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

So the story goes...

Ask yourself this, though: Which of the two of them is more likely to still be here in the near future?

Total BS.

Neither.  (odds on both are identical)

[SizzleBuzz]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

4 hours ago, AU-panther said:

That’s a different topic, I was trying to get an idea of which organizational structure was more likely.

Hurny with total control like you are suggesting or the one that SizzleBuzz is suggesting.

Not sure where you're getting that I said that unless you're going off what SB said.

But a quick FYI here: SB is a guy who's either been banned or changed IDs after making a fool of himself several times. His current silliness is to act like he knows what's going on inside the Panthers because he watches a TV show about billionaires on Showtime.

You seem to like to tell folks they are wrong but you can't ever support your rationale for saying so.

Back to Marty....

(1) You are saying he will be exited -- when and why?  (be specific)

(2) You are also saying the team should hire a traditional GM to replace Marty --- when do you believe this will happen, and again, why?

To be clear, here's where I stand on both:

(A) Marty will remain with the Panthers for the foreseeable future in a hybrid scouting/management/PR role, which has been the case since Tepper took over.

(B) Tepper won't hire a traditional GM within whom traditional GM powers are vested. 

The reason for both are (i) Hurndog's skill-set fits well within the Appaloosa model that Tepper has overlaid on the Panthers, and (ii) within the Appaloosa model Tepper is the GM and he will never hire and pay someone dumber than him to make key decisions for him --- just doesn't work that way in Tepper's World.

Let's get you on the record Scot and then watch it play out, see who turns out to be right.

You down with it dog?

[Mr. Scot]

44 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

You seem to like to tell folks they are wrong but you can't ever support your rationale for saying so.

Back to Marty....

(1) You are saying he will be exited -- when and why?  (be specific)

(2) You are also saying the team should hire a traditional GM to replace Marty --- when do you believe this will happen, and again, why?

To be clear, here's where I stand on both:

(A) Marty will remain with the Panthers for the foreseeable future in a hybrid scouting/management/PR role, which has been the case since Tepper took over.

(B) Tepper won't hire a traditional GM within whom traditional GM powers are vested. 

The reason for both are (i) Hurndog's skill-set fits well within the Appaloosa model that Tepper has overlaid on the Panthers, and (ii) within the Appaloosa model Tepper is the GM and he will never hire and pay someone dumber than him to make key decisions for him --- just doesn't work that way in Tepper's World.

Let's get you on the record Scot and then watch it play out, see who turns out to be right.

You down with it dog?

This is Sanjay, isn't it?

Sanjay used to post stupid sh-t like this a lot.

[SizzleBuzz]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is Sanjay, isn't it?

Sanjay used to post stupid sh-t like this a lot.

You have averaged 42.5 posts per-day, every-day...

...for the last 30 days --- and have said absolutely nothing.

That, is something to behold.

 

Come on man, get on the record as it goes to Marty and a potential GM hire!

Live a little!!