Panther defense most conservative in the league.

[TheSpecialJuan]

we have terrible CB's we have to run cover 3 all the time 

[LinvilleGorge]

I think Snow has done a decent job of working with what he has. We're far from the worst D in the NFL and honestly that was what I expected to be.

[pantherj]

I would rather apply pressure and get hits on the QB than contain the receivers in a loose zone.  If I were DC we would blitz as much as we did under Steve Wilks, but I wouldn't be sending small guys after the QB like Captain, oh no, I'd be sending LBs.

[t96]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Sure but what we are doing has been proven not to work. Why not try something different? Otherwise....why did we fire Ron?

It's worked pretty damn well this year actually considering the talent we have on D (lackthereof)... Once we get some more talent in the secondary, we'll see how Snow can adjust his scheme to more man to man and more blitzes. If he doesn't then it'll become an issue but right now our corners can't cover even scrub receivers 1 on 1 and even when we blitz we don't get there and someone would be open anyways. Our scheme has been completely fine this year when taking into account the personnel. If we still do this zone D and lack of blitzing crap with talent back there, I'll be concerned, but let's take a wait and see approach.

[Untouchable]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

There is some conversation that it is personnel but how can we can blitz a lot against detroit and shut them out but with essentially the same guys give up tons of yards and points to the Vikings.  Plus I heard Rhule say if Snow had to replay the game against the Vikings again he would have blitzed more. 

If it was all personnel than when you blitzed you would get poorer results not better ones and you wouldn't change your scheme if you didn't have the personnel to do both.

No this just convinces me even more that Snow's preferred scheme doesn't work in the pros and he will need to bring more pressure and put more guys on the line of scrimmage to confuse the blocking protections like we did against Detroit. The 3-3-5 is the old prevent defense which prevents you from winning.

It is personnel. The players the other team is trotting out matter too.

[Waldo]

31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Snow has done a decent job of working with what he has. We're far from the worst D in the NFL and honestly that was what I expected to be.

This. The unit is already overperforming considering the players we have. No idea where this is going but Snow did way more with what he had then I thought he possibly could. 

I wonder how much of the prevent D is by choice vs trying to cover player deficiencies.  We had the lead vs the Vikings and we knew they had to get it down the field because of the score but against Detroit it wasn't close enough to stop blitzing, we could afford the TD if we blew coverage. I completely understand the logic of don't stop pressuring the QB if our prevent D is going to be that bad but I wonder if as fans we are missing an angle. 

 

[PantherPhann89]

I said much of the same in my thread: Phil Snow's Defense 

[Harbingers]

Snow is not an NFL DC. Period. Anyone who says he's doing better than expected with less. In reality, He isn't.

[WarPanthers89]

49 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Snow is not an NFL DC. Period. Anyone who says who doing better than expected with less. In reality, He isn't.

He is an NFL DC. He has the youngest defense in a decade, highest paid defender on IR (KK), lost Bradberry, Luke, Mario, and many more to have the highest turnover of any team in the league, has to start 4 rookies most of the year, lost Jackson for most of the year, and still has a middle ranked defense. We had a historically bad run defense last season and we are making huge strides when we didn’t even have an offseason. 

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

He is an NFL DC. He has the youngest defense in a decade

Why do people keep saying he has the youngest defense in a decade? We are middle of the pack when it comes to age on defense.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, t96 said:

It's worked pretty damn well this year actually considering the talent we have on D (lackthereof)... Once we get some more talent in the secondary, we'll see how Snow can adjust his scheme to more man to man and more blitzes. If he doesn't then it'll become an issue but right now our corners can't cover even scrub receivers 1 on 1 and even when we blitz we don't get there and someone would be open anyways. Our scheme has been completely fine this year when taking into account the personnel. If we still do this zone D and lack of blitzing crap with talent back there, I'll be concerned, but let's take a wait and see approach.

If our corners are the problem, wouldn't that immediately make that position our highest priority need behind QB and LT?

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

Why do people keep saying he has the youngest defense in a decade? We are middle of the pack when it comes to age on defense.

Because it sounds better.

[Waldo]

So what is the defensive age once you take out KK (IR) and Whitehead (Benched)? Not the beginning of the year age but the last 2 games? Just curious and can't take the time to crunch the numbers. 

[Basbear]

Our DBs are sus at best. Best one is form a team that needs CBs and released him, thats the deal. Pride is trying hard for a 4th round rookie, same for STO. Djack has a toe and other issues. If burns doesnt get to QB, our DB are burned most times.

Snow shouldnt trust the DBs and hes still doing a great job.