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Tankers ONLY: Predicting the top 12 picks by remaining schedule


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5 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Saints will start their second string against us. That's 1 win. Denver is horrendous, so 50/50. Washington 50/50. I say we win 2 more games. That means the best QBs will be snapped up before we pick. 

No they won’t. Seattle plays the Rams at home and otherwise has an easy slate (Giants, Jets, Washington and SF). Very good chance to finish 13-3. GB plays Tennessee at home and all below .500 teams. Very good chance at 13-3 and they beat NO. No idea why people forget this.

The Saints play KC, the hardest opponent of all 3 teams. No idea if Brees will be back but even @ Atlanta could be tough with no Brees. Even if they win out, they would lose the #1 seed if they lose to us and GB wins out. They might also lose the #1 seed if they lose to us and tie Seattle. I have no clue what the tiebreakers are since they and Seattle would have two conference losses.

Anyway, I have no clue why people keep saying NO doesn’t need to win when they lost to GB head to head and have the toughest schedule remaining especially without Brees. They won’t be playing a QB less team the rest of the way.

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The Bengals aren't winning another game this year. 

Maybe the Jags can.

Falcons will continue to cause fits and play spoiler.  Maybe against the Bucs 1 out of their 2 games.

Texans will win again, Watson is too good for them to end the year 0-4

I think the Cowboys fall apart completely, NYG end up losing out minus the last week versus DAL. 

Philly notches on another win.

Rivera gets WAS in the playoffs.

 

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43 minutes ago, ncsfinest21 said:

I feel you, but the fact that we aren't going to tank and play every game as if we are trying to make the playoffs, we will have to give up alot to get a QB and unless we give up multiple picks and maybe next years first is not going to work.

I hope it wasn’t confusing but I wasn’t talking about trading up this draft but next draft. I really need to proofread my comments. I am still going to hope a QB will fall to us and I can enjoy next season. I want to love this team again. 

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2 hours ago, Dunn said:

Of all the potential teams in front of us, At least 5 could stand a new QB.  

NY Jets/Jacksonville/Giants/Denver/Washington looks like locks.

Cowboys move on from Dak? Eagles move on from Wentz and either draft another or go with Hurts? Detroit start rebuild and drop Stafford?  So many need QBs right now.  

Agreed on the 1st five teams although it’s not likely the Giants move on from Daniel Jones just yet, as could be the case with Denver and Drew Lock. I could also see RR deciding to stick with Alex Smith (if he finishes the season healthy) with Haskins as backup.

Wentz hasn’t been good in Philly but they just gave him an extension and the bigger problem is their OL. And as you said, they got Hurts as a developmental project and backup. 

It’s probably 50-50% chance Dallas and Detroit will move on from their signal-callers but that’s just speculation on my part.
 

 

 

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We should be pulling for Washington to win the NFC East since they are the only team in that division that would take a QB. 

Dallas (Dak), Giants(Jones), and Eagles (Wentz, Hurts) are not selecting QB's unless they have a chance at Lawrence or Fields, which they will not have. I just don't see another QB that would entice them over what they currently have when they have so many other holes to fill.

Houston is not a team to worry about since they have Watson, and even though Miami has their pick, they just picked Tua and will not draft another QB.

Cincinnati just drafted Burrow, and will not draft another QB.

LA Chargers just drafted Herbert and will not draft another QB.

Falcons still have Ryan, and not sure if they would look towards the future yet, or ride with Ryan a few more years.

Lions the same as the Falcons. They need a lot of help, with QB being one spot they have covered. Not sure if they would draft a QB for the future when they have so many holes to fill.

So, if Washington can win the East, there are 6 - 8 teams that we wouldn't have to worry about. 

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2 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I have been watching Panthers since 1998 and never missed a season. But if we don’t get a QB this offseason I may just skip the 2021 season. I have no investment and no real attachment to any players. Sure we may make the playoffs next year but who in their right mind thinks we are gonna be nothing but one and done with TB. Now with a further starter behind TB I could kind get off his back. Because I would now know he won’t be the starter forever. 
We really need a QB. 

shhhh for some reason this board is brain washed into believing Teddy is a franchise QB. They get angry when you disagree 

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3 hours ago, stbugs said:

No they won’t. Seattle plays the Rams at home and otherwise has an easy slate (Giants, Jets, Washington and SF). Very good chance to finish 13-3. GB plays Tennessee at home and all below .500 teams. Very good chance at 13-3 and they beat NO. No idea why people forget this.

The Saints play KC, the hardest opponent of all 3 teams. No idea if Brees will be back but even @ Atlanta could be tough with no Brees. Even if they win out, they would lose the #1 seed if they lose to us and GB wins out. They might also lose the #1 seed if they lose to us and tie Seattle. I have no clue what the tiebreakers are since they and Seattle would have two conference losses.

Anyway, I have no clue why people keep saying NO doesn’t need to win when they lost to GB head to head and have the toughest schedule remaining especially without Brees. They won’t be playing a QB less team the rest of the way.

The Saints versus Falcons will be a blowout win for the Saints imo. They're better without Brees. The Saints also play the god awful Vikings, Eagles, and the KC game could go either way and should be close. 

I don't see GB winning out, but I hope they do if that will prevent the Saints from resting their starters.

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4 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins Ph.D. said:

I was about to create a post, but I will just hi-jack this one.  Here is who to root for this weekend. 

The Carolina Panthers (SOS = .534) currently hold the 7th pick in the draft. We are currently one of the seven teams that have 4 wins and are ahead of that pack simply because we have one more loss than the rest. This weekend gives 6 other teams a chance to catch us in loss totals and seriously bump us down the draft board.  The following are games that will have a large impact on our draft order. We could finish the weekend anywhere between 6 and 11 following this weekend.

 

1)      Washington @ Steelers: If Washington loses this game they move ahead of the Panthers in the draft order, as they would have a tied record and lower SOS (.466).

2)      Lions @ Bears: If the Lions lose this game they move ahead of the Panthers in the draft order, as they would have a tied record and lower SOS (.506)

3)      Saints @ Falcons: If the Falcons lose this game they move ahead of the Panthers in the draft order as they would have a tied record and lower SOS (.533)

4)      Giants @ Seahawks: if the Giants lose this game and lose the lead in the NFC East, they move ahead of the Panthers in draft order as they would have a tied record and lower SOS (.489)

5)      Eagles @ Packers: If the Eagles win this game, they drop behind Carolina in the draft order, either due to record (4-7-1) or by taking back first place in the NFC East.

6)      Colts @ Texans: If the Texans lose this game, they have a tied record with the Panthers, but the Panthers would remain ahead given the Texans have a higher SOS (.549)

7)      Broncos @ Chiefs: If the Broncos lose this game, they have a tied record with the Panthers, but the Panthers would remain ahead given the Broncos have a higher SOS (.565)

8)      Patriots @ Chargers: If the Chargers win this game, they have a tied record with the Panthers, however, they maintain their lead in the draft order given there lower SOS (.492)

9)      Cowboys @ Ravens: If the Cowboys win this game, they have a tied record with the Panthers, however, they maintain their lead in the draft order given there lower SOS (.486)

Yeah, you do a good job with this kind of thing most of the time, but since you got slack, I jumped it....:)  Good points here.  Seriously--this week's matchups are interesting.  The teams we need to win have tough matchups.  Thanks for this----helps a lot.

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3 hours ago, davos said:

The Bengals aren't winning another game this year.  Probably not, but they have Dallas, and then NFC east is beating the NFC East, losing to everyone else.  Either way, they are not hurting or helping us if they do or don't.

Maybe the Jags can.  I speculated on who I thought would be favored.  I do not see Jax winning any--but if they win 1, nothing really changes unless the Jets win one.

Falcons will continue to cause fits and play spoiler.  Maybe against the Bucs 1 out of their 2 games. Atlanta has a tough schedule down the stretch, but they are hard to gauge. 

Texans will win again, Watson is too good for them to end the year 0-4  They have Indy twice, Chicago, Cincinnati, and Tennessee.  I see them favored for 2 of those games--they should win at least 2.

I think the Cowboys fall apart completely, NYG end up losing out minus the last week versus DAL. Anything anyone says about the NFC East is probable.  of the NFC East teams, Dallas has the most favorable schedule.  They have Cincinnati (W), Philly, and NYG left--and SF as well.  I think they will be favored to beat Cincy and Philly...stay tuned

Philly notches on another win.

Rivera gets WAS in the playoffs. Sure looks like it could work out for luck RR. 

 

See bold above.

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This discussion really is not just about draft position to take a QB at that position. It is also about being in a position in which a trade, if needed to get “the guy,” is not a draft killer for the next 2-3 years. It should be a lot easier to jump from 4 to 2 (CIN, potentially) than it would be to jump from 6 or 7 to 2. 

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