Teddy Bridgewater: Panthers may have panicked late against Vikings

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No, you don't understand. Not even close.

Part of the problem is that you and a couple of others are taking it as if it was meant to say this was the only thing wrong with Bridgewater.

That was never the case.

The premise, laid out as simply as possible is this: For whatever you think of his overall ability Bridgewater was more accurate, quicker with his reads, better at scrambling and a few other things early in the season than he is now.

That's not an excuse, it doesn't paint him in a good light and it doesn't minimize his problems. It's just an analysis of where he's at compared from early in the season to now, and it doesn't preclude there being other factors contributing to his regression.

I'd frame it as simply as this: Was the guy you saw yesterday the same guy that you saw in the first few games?

To answer that with a yes would be delusional, but I know there are some who will because that's their thing.

But the answer is no, and the wear and tear of the season is one of the reasons.

Not the only reason, but a reason.

I'll rank his performances by QBR this season.

Week 4(93.6)

Week 5(91.0)

Week 7(88.1)

Week 9(87.4)

Week 1(73.0)

Week 10(69.5)

Week 3(63.7)

Week 12(53.2)

Week 8(50.0)

Week 2(36.0)

Week 6(27.0)

 

That look like a trend or just a bunch of all over the map poo? Because I don't see a trend line leading towards fatigue. I see a bunch of inconsistent fuging play.

 

[TheRumGone]

I’d bench him for those comments alone not just his horrible play.

[LinvilleGorge]

A physically limited QB looking worse as more film becomes available on him in a system isn't exactly a novel development in the NFL. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, TheRumGone said:

I’d bench him for those comments alone not just his horrible play.

Agreed. IMO, his play was worthy of benching but his comments afterwards almost demands it 

[cookinbrak]

So do we start calling him "5 Games" Teddy? Is that all he's good for a year?

[Mage]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Don't even have to mention fatigue.

if you seriously think the guy you watched yesterday is the same guy that we saw early in the season, I can tell you that you don't know what you're watching.

I'm explaining one of the reasons why he's different, but even outside of that reason if you want to try to argue that he isn't different, yes that's delusional.

Yeah, I don't know what I'm watching.  Coming from the guy who posted blatant lies about Jerome Bettis and his productivity in the other thread.  Once again, you don't see how condescending you are to those who diverge from your opinion.  Those who disagree with you, and think Teddy has looked mediocre all season, and the only different in stats is because of how defenses are playing us (not to mention the higher caliber defenses)?  Yea, we don't know football.  You are something else, man.

Fatigued Teddy doe!

[Mage]

1 minute ago, cookinbrak said:

So do we start calling him "5 Games" Teddy? Is that all he's good for a year?

I think so.  Too fatigued to even make it to mid-season.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I'll rank his performances by QBR this season.

Week 4(93.6)

Week 5(91.0)

Week 7(88.1)

Week 9(87.4)

Week 1(73.0)

Week 10(69.5)

Week 3(63.7)

Week 12(53.2)

Week 8(50.0)

Week 2(36.0)

Week 6(27.0)

 

That look like a trend or just a bunch of all over the map poo? Because I don't see a trend line leading towards fatigue. I see a bunch of inconsistent fuging play.

 

Those are actually some pretty good quarterback ratings for several weeks, including some of the early ones other than when we played some of our best defensive opponents (particularly weeks 2 and 6)

You might notice though that from week 8 onward, the average is lower minus week 9 when we went with a pretty brilliant game plan against the Chiefs.

[Mage]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Those are actually some pretty good quarterback ratings for several weeks, including some of the early ones other than when we played some of our best defensive opponents (particularly weeks 2 and 6)

lol

[LinvilleGorge]

To be fair, it's probably taxing on the shoulder to throw all those checkdowns.  If Teddy played golf he'd probably chip with his pitching wedge off the tee on a par 5.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Mage said:

lol

As solid a response as you've given...

[Mage]

Teddy in first 6 games:

70 CMP%, 1676 yards, 6 TDs, 5 INTs, 94.6 QB Rating (8 Y/A)

Teddy in last 5 games:

69.9 CMP%, 1143 yards, 8 TDs, 3 INTs, 98.5 QB Rating (7.1 Y/A)

Fatigued Teddy!

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Those are actually some pretty good quarterback ratings for several weeks, including some of the early ones other than when we played some of our best defensive opponents (particularly weeks 2 and 6)

You might notice though that from week 8 onward, the average is lower minus week 9 when we went with a pretty brilliant game plan against the Chiefs.

Oh yeah? About those averages:

Weeks 1-8: 65.3

Weeks 9-12: 70.0

Even if you did take out that Week 9(which is blatantly skewing the data) Weeks 9-12 would still be 61.4.

 

Yeah, he isn't fatigued.

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Oh yeah? About those averages:

Weeks 1-8: 65.3

Weeks 9-12: 70.0

Even if you did take out that Week 9(which is blatantly skewing the data) Weeks 9-12 would still be 61.4.

Yeah, he isn't fatigued.

You're pulling out a stat without looking at the context. And again, this is why I don't go by stats because you can skew stats to say pretty much whatever you want.

I'll ask the question again: Was the guy you saw yesterday the same player you saw in the early weeks?