Seriously, it's time to give Walker an honest look

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So does your argument to stick with Teddy really boil down to the fear of possibly doing worse?

I mean, it's tough to do much worse than 3-8. That's a really low bar to clear. The offense basically hit rock bottom today. They played terrible against a bad defense in a game where our D produced two TDs of their own. The odds of winning a game in the NFL when the opposing defense scores two TDs has to be extraordinarily low. We really did snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. If our staff is honestly afraid to do worse than that then I would seriously question if Rhule is going to work out.

My argument is that he's the best quarterback on the roster, and as long as we're still officially in it, that's who should start.

Once we're out, and that's probably not too long from now, play whoever you want.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

My argument is that he's the best quarterback on the roster, and as long as we're still officially in it, that's who should start.

Once we're out, and that's probably not too long from now, play whoever you want.

If you think your mediocre 3-8 starter gives you your best chance despite your backup showing some promise in his lone appearance, well I'd probably argue that you're making that decision out of fear of possibly doing worse. Because there's certainly nothing to hang your hat on in terms of hope to do better by sticking with the status quo.

[Proudiddy]

All we heard last week was how we should discount what PJ did because it was against the Lions and how Teddy would do the same thing or better.  Teddy comes back and blows the game against the 26th ranked scoring defense while putting up a whopping 10 points and leaving at least 11 potential points on the field in the redzone and missed a surefire 7 points by throwing Robbie out of bounds on a wide open streak. 

So, should we say Teddy's performance doesn't count either?

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

If you think your mediocre 3-8 starter gives you your best chance despite your backup showing some promise in his lone appearance, well I'd probably argue that you're making that decision out of gear of possibly doing worse. Because there's certainly nothing to hang your hat on in terms of hope to do better by sticking with the status quo.

So Bridgewater is the sole reason we're  3-8?

Come on, man. You're smarter than this.

[Jon Snow]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

My argument is that he's the best quarterback on the roster, and as long as we're still officially in it, that's who should start.

Once we're out, and that's probably not too long from now, play whoever you want.

I'm not so sure that is a solid argument after today.

[glitchh8]

51 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

 

There's nothing to gain by continuing to trot Teddy out there. You've seen all you need to see. There's nothing to lose by giving Walker a real shot.

Give both backups a start, I'd like see how much if any Grier has progressed, and no, despite what he says Rhule plays favorites so we can't trust him that Walker is better.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

So Bridgewater is the sole reason we're  3-8?

Come on, man. You're smarter than this.

No, but to think you'd be better off sticking with him you'd have to think he's the primary factor in the "3" part of that record. I absolutely do not.

You've continued to produce zero argument for Teddy other than what boils down to fear of potentially doing worse. Worse than not very good. Worse than bad in crunch time situations.

[Proudiddy]

4 minutes ago, glitchh8 said:

Give both backups a start, I'd like see how much if any Grier has progressed, and no, despite what he says Rhule plays favorites so we can't trust him that Walker is better.

 

The team sure looked excited to play for and with PJ.  They look flat when Teddy is out there, and as a OLineman, receiver, or back that is depending on him to make the right plays to win the game, I would've already been past my breaking point with Teddy.  He just makes way too many mistakes for a QB with such slim margin for error.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

No, bit to think you'd be better off sticking with him you'd have to think he's the primary factor in the "3" part of that record. I absolutely do not.

I don't have to think that to think he's still the best quarterback on the roster.

And no, it isn't "fear". I'm not sure exactly what I'm supposed to be afraid of.

I would definitely say though that you're talking about making depth chart decisions out of emotion rather than logic.

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, bull123 said:

Let’s not forget those two awful ints he threw last week

walker is not the answer

You do t know that he is or not 

you can coach decision making but you can’t coach velocity and courage 

[hepcat]

14 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Because no good qb will ever throw two bad int's in his very first start. C'mon bull, you know better than that.

PJ Walker has 500% more physical talent than Teddy Bridgewater and he deserves a chance to prove himself in the last 4 games the Panthers have this season 

[Silent Majority]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

No, he's not, but that doesn't mean that Walker is equal or better.

To be clear, we're not talking about a rookie here. This is a guy who's had shots at sticking on an NFL roster since 2017. He never rose above the level of a practice squad guy, then found himself unemployed and wound up in the XFL.

People are counting on him being one of those guys that was misevaluated, but that happens a lot less than people think.

Seems you are intentionally mischaracterizing the reason they want PJ to get the start, in order for your assertion to appear more valid than theirs. Who said they believe him to be a high level starter?

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I don't have to think that to think he's still the best quarterback on the roster.

And no, it isn't "fear". I'm not sure exactly what I'm supposed to be afraid of.

I would definitely say though that you're talking about making depth chart decisions out of emotion rather than logic.

There's nothing emotional about benching an underperforming player. I'd argue that it would be more emotional to stick with him. I think Rhule stuck with Whitehead for as long as he did out of largely emotional reasons.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

how can anyone say they’ve seen enough of pj to know he isn’t better than teddy fugin bridgewater? i’m not saying he is for sure. i would need to see more. weird to completely write him off. it’s not like we’re comparing him to a good quarterback.