Seriously, it's time to give Walker an honest look

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

He didn't throw the coaches under the bus. He just didn't accept his share of the responsibility, which everyone should probably have a problem with. 

the play coming in late is on who exactly if not the coaches? and its relevance to teddy blowing the pass is...what?

i can guarantee you the coaches aren’t happy with that comment because it’s exactly what it looks like it is. teddy fuged up on that play. teddy alone. but he brought the staff into it because, well, maybe he’s not the leader he was made out to be when we first signed him.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

He didn't throw the coaches under the bus. He just didn't accept his share of the responsibility, which everyone should probably have a problem with. 

I remember somebody saying that Matt Rhule wanted everybody to talk about things in terms of what "we" did.

I'm not a fan of it myself.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

this stuff always cracks me up because of fans being so heart invested in a subject they're blind to what's actually happening. trying to bench a guy with the 11th best QBR in the league who is being recognized around the league as a former starter that did it the right way in terms of inducing another chance and put down the roadmap that many expect jameis winston to follow. teddy has been good this year. there are some things that he needs to figure out, but as this offense grows together they're going to start to click. teddy already has excellent chemistry with curtis samuel and robby anderson. during anderson's career, he hasn't once had a target to catch ratio of better than 55%. right now, with teddy, he's at 74.8% which is just ridiculously high. robby is a veteran route runner and his timing with teddy is great. samuel was at 85% coming into this game and went 5 for 5. the rhetoric around the league is about how impressive it is that the offense has continued to move the ball without our MVP candidate of last season and teddy's efficiency is the reason. the job of the quarterback in today's league where most everyone is running WCO is to give your playmakers a chance to make plays. complete a high percentage of your throws and finish drives. teddy has had trouble with the drive finishing part, but he's doing a lot of what he's doing without the two targets that make the red zone a LOT easier for quarterbacks in a big jumpball tight end with hands and a creative pass catcher out of the backfield. one of those we already have, one we will have to find. 

what happened this past game is a combo of factors. the first one being that teddy just didn't have a good game. sometimes quarterbacks don't play well. especially with all the juice he had early on for it being against minnesota. he's had this one circled for a long time and he hyped himself too much for it and his start out of the gate was especially troublesome. the second thing is that he didn't get a lot of help from any other phase. mike davis was decent but there weren't any chunks to be had on the ground and the defense, aside from the two enormous plays by chinn, couldn't solve the vikings. the defensive play calling on that last drive in particular was awe inspiring in a bad way. the offensive play calling tried to get way too cute. they needed to pound that in with mike davis or kill every bit of the clock trying. if you turn the ball over on the 1 after getting stuffed, defend the 99 yards with about 1:20 on the clock and no timeouts for cousins. they shouldn't have put the ball in the air ONCE and they kept doing it and killed the clock at critical stages where it needed to stay running. 

Dj and bridgewater just can't find any common ground. even that redzone play that everybody is blaming solely on teddy was a miscommunication. i think teddy was expecting Dj to realize how open he was and slow down before he ran back into more coverage where the route was taking him and Dj ran it all the way out and the timing was terrible. not a good throw, but do keep in mind that Dj had 9 targets today and only managed to bring in 4 of them. he was so non-competitive on a bunch of his targets as well. that's on him and he's going to have to clean that up. several passes went through his hands today. those two are going to have to put in extensive work, but they truthfully had zero time to learn each other before the start of the season. for those that need visual representation, check out the percentages on targets to catches in this table:

22	Christian McCaffrey	24	rb	3	3	59	225	5	15	3.8	75.0	19.7	19	17	149	8.8	1	24	5.7	49.7	89.5%	7.8	76	4.9	374	6	0
28	Mike Davis	27	rb	11	8	111	449	3	25	4.0	40.8	10.1	56	49	305	6.2	2	23	4.5	27.7	87.5%	5.4	160	4.7	754	5	1
10	Curtis Samuel	24	wr	10	5	26	112	2	17	4.3	11.2	2.6	58	49	445	9.1	3	29	4.9	44.5	84.5%	7.7	75	7.4	557	5	0
11	Robby Anderson	27	WR	11	11	1	3	0	3	3.0	0.3	0.1	95	71	818	11.5	1	75	6.5	74.4	74.7%	8.6	72	11.4	821	1	1
82	Chris Manhertz	28	te	11	7	0	0	0	0		0.0	0.0	7	5	41	8.2	0	17	0.5	3.7	71.4%	5.9	5	8.2	41	0	0
80	Ian Thomas	24	te	11	7	0	0	0	0		0.0	0.0	18	12	93	7.8	1	21	1.1	8.5	66.7%	5.2	12	7.8	93	1	1
15	Seth Roberts	29		7	1	0	0	0	0		0.0	0.0	6	4	31	7.8	0	12	0.6	4.4	66.7%	5.2	4	7.8	31	0	0
12	D.J. Moore	23	WR	11	11	1	21	0	21	21.0	1.9	0.1	80	46	863	18.8	4	74	4.2	78.5	57.5%	10.8	47	18.8	884	4	0

 

fortunately or unfortunately, teddy bridgewater is your quarterback. how you feel about that is up to your discretion and your level of football knowledge, but do know that not a solitary soul in that building is considering starting anyone at QB over teddy when he's healthy because they know all this. this wasn't intended to be a short marriage. 

Gonna be honest, I got bored and quit reading when I got to the machine gunning excuses portion of the essay.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I remember somebody saying that Matt Rhule wanted everybody to talk about things in terms of what "we" did.

I'm not a fan of it myself.

 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I remember somebody saying that Matt Rhule wanted everybody to talk about things in terms of what "we" did.

I'm not a fan of it myself.

Well, hopefully that is it. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Gonna be honest, I got bored and quit reading when I got to the machine gunning excuses portion of the essay.

You read that much?  I only got to the 2nd or 3rd sentence before I skipped past it.  More power to you brother.

[trueblade]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can agree with all of that, provided we're out of it.

(and I feel like it's not going to be long until we are)

If you don't think we're out of it after today, then to quote Tarkin, "I think you overestimate their chances."

[Vagrant]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Gonna be honest, I got bored and quit reading when I got to the machine gunning excuses portion of the essay.

try again. you can find cogent rationale to disagree other than post length. i apologize that things can't always be condensed to solve for your fruit fly attention span. 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Well, hopefully that is it. 

We had a discussion about a comment somebody made in a presser earlier this year (don't remember who; could have been Bridgewater or somebody else). That's when that was first mentioned.

I wasn't a fan of it back then. Still not...

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, trueblade said:

If you don't think we're out of it after today, then to quote Tarkin, "I think you overestimate their chances."

Practically speaking, I think we've been out of it for a while now.

Officially though? Not yet.

[Vagrant]

17 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You read that much?  I only got to the 2nd or 3rd sentence before I skipped past it.  More power to you brother.

illiteracy five! 

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

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For me to try to get in that elite category of my position I've got to be able to go out and hit kicks like that on a pretty consistent basis.

looks like someone on the team knows how to take responsibility for their mistakes.

[MechaZain]

4 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

this stuff always cracks me up because of fans being so heart invested in a subject they're blind to what's actually happening. trying to bench a guy with the 11th best QBR in the league who is being recognized around the league as a former starter that did it the right way in terms of inducing another chance and put down the roadmap that many expect jameis winston to follow. teddy has been good this year.

Teddy's QBR is high because of the system not because he's executing it particularly well. I'd argue that any pedestrian passer could produce similar results and the Detroit game backs that up. 

His lone touchdown today a was 5 yard dump to directly in front of him to an open Robby. You or I could have done that but I'm sure it helped his QBR.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

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RE: If the kick, at 54-yards, is one he feels he has to make

Yeah. I think for myself, I think that's 100% in range, just based off what I've put on tape and what I've been able to do. A 54-yarder is something that should be in my wheelhouse and should be somewhat of a kick that's a higher percentage for not only myself but for the team to view. For me not to do what they sent me out there to do and what I feel comfortable hitting is frustrating for me. I want to put myself in a lot of those situations to put the team on my back and kind of wear that hat on my head and help us in different ways and today I let the team down so I'm pretty frustrated about that.

meanwhile teddy whines that he didn’t get an opportunity to audible out of a play that resulted in a wide open receiver in the end zone to ice the game. scot and co are full of poo. teddy doesn’t take blame because that’s who teddy is. there’s no mandate from rhule. slye spoke honestly after the game. teddy threw his coaches under the bus.