Greg Little healthy scratch

[raleigh-panther]

Hurney’s continued employment is why I have a hard time with Tepper and with the term rebuild 

the same guy keeping Hurney around is the same guy saying how great Rhule is

puzzling 

[Basbear]

19 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Despite being healthy, he was inactive for a game where we were thin on the line due to other players being injured.

Said it elsewhere: If they don't want you in that situation, they don't want you.

I'd be extremely shocked if he's on the roster next year. He's just not worth the effort.

I dont think thin is good wording. Scott can play both Ts and Okung had 2 weeks to get "fully" healthy. Moton has been a rock. Hes at the panther fork, lucky for him the panthers have about 9 spots open and his pay is peanuts. They can not replace all the spots with UDFAs and bottom tier FAs. Thing is he'll be 24 with two full years and if a UDFA or flyer on cheap FAs beats him out next year..... Call Eric Flowers agent and fool the next few teams into giving him millions based on "potential". 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Pre-draft analysis on Little said he played soft and had contact balance issues. 

[Basbear]

48 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Pre-draft analysis on Little said he played soft and had contact balance issues. 

Same issues today, not taking to the coaching of two different staffs. If he added strength it would solve 2 of his big issues. 

[stbugs]

22 hours ago, TreadmillTrackstar said:

Geez, I'm no draft expert or talent evaluator but those characteristics would have made me pass him on up in the draft. Lazy and non physical/aggressive are worst traits a lineman could have in my opinion. Tell me again why we keep Hurney around?

We were roasting him after the combine and Dillard after the Senior Bowl and I know I wasn’t as nice to @Verge when he kept saying we liked him. I just didn’t want to believe it was possible. His combine was awful and not the numbers part but the agility and drills. There’s no possible way that any football guy could watch the combine and give him a first round grade. Somehow Marty actually thought that there was some sort of demand for him. He could have waited until our 3rd round pick.

There were a bevy of G/C (IOL was really deep in 2018/2019 - we drafted 0) we all loved in here. @ncfan liked Risner, I liked McCoy and Jenkins (went to GB). NO took McCoy at 48, one pick after the pick we traded up with and according to another thread in here he’s now one of the top 25 players under 25.

The 2018 and 2019 drafts are why I know, even if the Marty supporters won’t believe it, that 2020’s draft was very much run by the coaches. There were no Gauldens, Griers and Littles. No reaching and no going after projects.

[J.B.]

On 11/29/2020 at 12:41 PM, stbugs said:

Hurney day two picks by himself with two 2nds and four, yes four, 3rds:

Donte, Gaulden, Little, Grier

That’s a GM who is stellar at talent evaluation.

Marty as card boy with coaches who know the college talent with no extra picks:

YGM, Chinn

We should be thanking Washington, NY, Detroit and Atlanta every day for taking Haskins, Jones, a TE and a guard instead of Burns. It’s bad enough that we wasted pick 47 and 77, but pick 16, ugh. I can’t wait until we have a GM who can compliment the fact that we have coaches who know the current college players. We won’t have that advantage forever.

Point to a GM that you consider a superior talent evaluator. And then let’s look at their day two picks over that same time period 

There is a reason that Hurney has been in the league for as long as he has.......and that you don’t work in pro football

[Mvp2014]

this marshmellow is cooked

[MHS831]

On 11/29/2020 at 12:11 PM, Moo Daeng said:

They gave him every opportunity to show if he can play. I wouldn't assume he will be inactive the rest of the season but he might just be a backup the rest of his time here.

Yes, at best.  It does not hurt to keep working with him in that case---the light comes on late for some folks.  Evan Mathis (I think) was released here and made the pro bowl in Philly.  Try him at G--I do not think that will work, but who knows?

[Moo Daeng]

8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes, at best.  It does not hurt to keep working with him in that case---the light comes on late for some folks.  Evan Mathis (I think) was released here and made the pro bowl in Philly.  Try him at G--I do not think that will work, but who knows?

Yeah, he didn't catch on until his 4th team. Cut by Panthers and Dolphins, then not resigned by the Bengals before he caught on with the Eagles 7 seasons in to his career. 

[Toomers]

10 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Yes, at best.  It does not hurt to keep working with him in that case---the light comes on late for some folks.  Evan Mathis (I think) was released here and made the pro bowl in Philly.  Try him at G--I do not think that will work, but who knows?

  If he wants to “inject” some life into his career after 3 teams got rid of him, I’m sure he could enjoy some success in his 30s.

[Verge]

17 hours ago, stbugs said:

We were roasting him after the combine and Dillard after the Senior Bowl and I know I wasn’t as nice to @Verge when he kept saying we liked him. I just didn’t want to believe it was possible. His combine was awful and not the numbers part but the agility and drills. There’s no possible way that any football guy could watch the combine and give him a first round grade. Somehow Marty actually thought that there was some sort of demand for him. He could have waited until our 3rd round pick.

There were a bevy of G/C (IOL was really deep in 2018/2019 - we drafted 0) we all loved in here. @ncfan liked Risner, I liked McCoy and Jenkins (went to GB). NO took McCoy at 48, one pick after the pick we traded up with and according to another thread in here he’s now one of the top 25 players under 25.

The 2018 and 2019 drafts are why I know, even if the Marty supporters won’t believe it, that 2020’s draft was very much run by the coaches. There were no Gauldens, Griers and Littles. No reaching and no going after projects.

I'll tell you straight up, there were AT LEAST three teams with a first round grade on Little. It is his own personal development that has really dragged him down, the physical skills are there on tape. 

[Verge]

5 hours ago, J.B. said:

Point to a GM that you consider a superior talent evaluator. And then let’s look at their day two picks over that same time period 

There is a reason that Hurney has been in the league for as long as he has.......and that you don’t work in pro football

Hurney has been in the league because of Jerry Richardson. Tepper didn't fire him because he wanted some form of stability in this transition. Matt Rhule very much has say in what we do.

[Toomers]

7 minutes ago, Verge said:

I'll tell you straight up, there were AT LEAST three teams with a first round grade on Little. It is his own personal development that has really dragged him down, the physical skills are there on tape. 

So was the laziness. 
 

  And I respect your info, but that almost impossible to verify. If you count the Panthers as one, and your guy as two, how can you say for sure any other team had that grade on him. Any info on other teams is speculation at best. Everyone is lying(as they should) that time of year. Just because someone told him that doesn’t mean it was true. Why would they tell him anything true about their board. 

[Verge]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

So was the laziness. 
 

  And I respect your info, but that almost impossible to verify. If you count the Panthers as one, and your guy as two, how can you say for sure any other team had that grade on him. Any info on other teams is speculation at best. Everyone is lying(as they should) that time of year. Just because someone told him that doesn’t mean it was true. Why would they tell him anything true about their board. 

Teams talk and things get released, especially when the draft is over. I can tell you most of the Cardinals grades from 2018 just from various media lol. Most teams have a lot of data and information on what others will likely do. Scouts don't exactly avoid each other. Disinformation usually happens in the two weeks leading up to the draft, scouts intentionally leaking dumb stuff, but Greg Little was not one of those bluffs.