CRAZY STAT

[SmittysLawnGuy]

Just got this from NFLN. Tom Brady is 0-19 with 3 picks in passes over 20yds. Does this mean we can win with Teddy with a few more pieces or does it mean the Bucs have 0 shot at the Bowl. It does make me wonder if I'm being to hard on Teddy.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Just got this from NFLN. Tom Brady is 0-19 with 3 picks in passes over 20yds. Does this mean we can win with Teddy with a few more pieces or does it mean the Bucs have 0 shot at the Bowl. It does make me wonder if I'm being to hard on Teddy.

Some of that is that dipshit Arians dumb fug offense, some of that is that Tom Brady is 78 years old.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Some of that is that dipshit Arians dumb fug offense, some of that is that Tom Brady is 78 years old.

LMAO!

[CRA]

New England Patriots quarterback Cam Newton, during that same span, is 4-of-7 for 145 yards with a touchdown on passes that traveled 20-plus yards, per Next Gen Stats.

PFF‘s deep passing charting is slightly different. They have Brady at 1-of-19 for 44 yards with three interceptions — for a 5.3 adjusted completion percentage and 0.0 passer rating — on deep balls in Weeks 8-11. PFF had Newton at 4-of-6 for 145 yards with a touchdown — for a 66.7 adjusted completion percentage and 149.3 passer rating — on deep balls in Weeks 8-11.

[Pup McBarky]

8 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Just got this from NFLN. Tom Brady is 0-19 with 3 picks in passes over 20yds. Does this mean we can win with Teddy with a few more pieces or does it mean the Bucs have 0 shot at the Bowl. It does make me wonder if I'm being to hard on Teddy.

It means Brady is 43 years old.

[WarHeel]

Teddy may not be the future or check boxes that some would define essential to be a franchise QB but a lot of us have been way too hard on him while giving other QBs in the league a pass.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

Mind you, I really like Teddy right up until he throws for 2 yds. on 3rd and 7. The Tom Brady thing shocks me. I feel if you can't at least threaten deep then it really limits you. Think the Rams exposed that against Tom.

[SmittysLawnGuy]

5 minutes ago, Pup McBarky said:

It means Brady is 43 years old.

78 officially. It's already been stated.

[Waldo]

Neither are good long term answers for their teams. The fact one is 40+ is amazing. Playing in a system that pushes the ball downfield on that arm is completely believable of their coach. LoL

[t96]

16 minutes ago, CRA said:

New England Patriots quarterback Cam Newton, during that same span, is 4-of-7 for 145 yards with a touchdown on passes that traveled 20-plus yards, per Next Gen Stats.

PFF‘s deep passing charting is slightly different. They have Brady at 1-of-19 for 44 yards with three interceptions — for a 5.3 adjusted completion percentage and 0.0 passer rating — on deep balls in Weeks 8-11. PFF had Newton at 4-of-6 for 145 yards with a touchdown — for a 66.7 adjusted completion percentage and 149.3 passer rating — on deep balls in Weeks 8-11.

Cam has been mostly terrible this year. When will you guys move on

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, t96 said:

Cam has been mostly terrible this year. When will you guys move on

well, that really isn't true.  He was terrible two games coming off of COVID. 

outside of that? Cam has had NE in games they have no business being in.  None.   There isn't a team not named the Jets with a worse cast around their QB. 

I've moved on from Cam.   This ain't a Teddy thread.  This is a Brady thread.    

Cam also has his best passing % of his career and is on pace to challenge his TD rushing high he set in 2011.  He isn't terrible. He is one man showing it w/ no weapons.  

[t96]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

well, that really isn't true.  He was terrible two games coming off of COVID. 

outside of that? Cam has had NE in games they have no business being in.  None.   There isn't a team not named the Jets with a worse cast around their QB. 

I've moved on from Cam.   This ain't a Teddy thread.  This is a Brady thread.    

This couldn't be less true at all. He's been inconsistent and not a threat as a passer at all. It's obvious they don't have much for receivers, but they have a great OL and still an above average D and oh by the way the greatest coach of all time (albeit a cheater). With a better QB, the Pats are in the playoff hunt.

[CRA]

19 minutes ago, t96 said:

This couldn't be less true at all. He's been inconsistent and not a threat as a passer at all. It's obvious they don't have much for receivers, but they have a great OL and still an above average D and oh by the way the greatest coach of all time (albeit a cheater). With a better QB, the Pats are in the playoff hunt.

Cam was inconsistent in 2011 when he rewrote the record book.  Cam was inconsistent in 2015 when he won the MVP.   He has always been a streaky player. 

NE's roster is trash this year.    Belichick has essentially conceded that point. Cam will line up Sunday with arguably the worst passing options in all the NFL. 

They might of had an above average defense.....if people (league high) didn't opt out and were actually playing this season.  Above average defenses can at least embarrass an old joke Joe Flacco.  

 

[t96]

33 minutes ago, CRA said:

Cam was inconsistent in 2011 when he rewrote the record book.  Cam was inconsistent in 2015 when he won the MVP.   He has always been a streaky player. 

NE's roster is trash this year.    Belichick has essentially conceded that point. Cam will line up Sunday with arguably the worst passing options in all the NFL. 

They might of had an above average defense.....if people (league high) didn't opt out and were actually playing this season.  Above average defenses can at least embarrass an old joke Joe Flacco.  

 

In 2011 Cam looked elite at times, and had sustained elite play at times too with some poor play mixed in as well. In 2015 Cam was very consistent and dominated as a passer the entire second half of the season after being consistently solid in the first half. In 2020 Cam has had no sustained play at a level better than average at any point in this season. It's been a mix of terrible and average. Sure, he's had a couple really nice throws, but they are one-offs and not very often for a starting QB in the NFL. His best moments right now are still absolutely nothing compared to when he was in his prime here. It's clear as day to anyone watching him play and in the box scores. 4 passing touchdowns in 9 starts is absolutely putrid. He's 29th in the league in passing yards per game. Receivers aren't good but they've been open at times and even with bad receivers an NFL starting QB should throw more than a touchdown per game. He's not even throwing 0.5 TDs/game. And you can knock the weapons but they still have a top OL which makes up for that quite a bit. There's no way to spin that Cam has been anything but a huge weakness for the Patriots. It's a shame but his body has broken down and he isn't good enough in the non-physical aspects any more to make up for it. 

 

You can look up the stats if you'd like, the pats do have an above average defense despite the opt outs (really the only significant one was Hightower). Their defense was the reason for the Dolphins, Raiders and Ravens wins.