New study shows vegans 43% more likely to suffer broken bones than meat eaters

[LinvilleGorge]

I definitely don't think veganism is the ideal diet but professional athletes aren't exactly the average person. I'm sure the professional dieticians they work with can provide a perfectly sufficient combination of vegan diet and supplements.

[PhillyB]

1 minute ago, WarHeel said:

If by “no one” you mean the tinderbox clan you roll with then I take that as a compliment. 

better than the tinderbox klan you roll with

[WarHeel]

4 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

every day dicknuts. have you tried eating something other than paper?

Stick to making D- list films, my guy. You don’t have a dog in this fight which is why you resort to name calling and race-baiting per usual.

[Moo Daeng]

23 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/vegans-43-more-likely-suffer-23052064

 

This only confirms my original stance on the matter: Veganism is perfectly fine for your average Joe blow trying to improve overall health and nutrition but detrimental to athletes in a physical sport like football.

Anyone on the team a vegan that we know of? 

Vegans are 43% more likely to be doing something active other than sitting on their couch.

[shaqattaq]

13 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

carnivorous steve smith broke his leg

pescatarian cam newton only fractured his ribs

vegan gerald mccoy broke nothing

really makes u think

Hell, McCoy didn't hit anyone!

[PhillyB]

5 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

Stick to making D- list films, my guy. You don’t have a dog in this fight which is why you resort to name calling and race-baiting per usual.

unless you can waddle back in here with a peer reviewed article you've had published in an academic journal literally none of us care about your opinion besides literal snake handler and klan member JOAT

[Ricky Spanish]

@PhillyB

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The associations were attenuated further but remained significant in vegans with additional adjustment for dietary calcium (1.31; 1.10, 1.57, Table 2 model 3), total dietary protein (1.39; 1.16, 1.67, Table 2 model 4), or both dietary factors simultaneously (1.30; 1.08, 1.56, Table 2 model 5)."

So if you control for both calcium and protein intake, there's still a 30% higher chance of a vegan getting a fracture, and the p value is 0.009 (0.05 being the threshold for statistically significant). 

The study itself goes into great depth. Don't write it off just because you disagree with it.

Also from study lead author Dr Tammy Tong,

"Well-balanced and predominantly plant-based diets can result in improved nutrient levels and have been linked to lower risks of diseases including heart disease and diabetes.

"Individuals should take into account the benefits and risks of their diet, and ensure they have adequate levels of calcium and protein and also maintain a healthy BMI, that is, neither under nor overweight."

 

[Jesse]

Correlation not causation? Maybe the people who were vegan/vegetarian were more active? Were the breaks from overuse or were they acute injuries? Did the people who ate meat do more activities that triggers osteoblasts and the ossification of bone?

 

I’m no scientists, but these are the first questions that come to mind. It’s more of an observation than study, but interesting. 

[Paa Langfart]

I see no reason this topic is even in the main forum.

[WarHeel]

4 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

unless you can waddle back in here with a peer reviewed article you've had published in an academic journal literally none of us care about your opinion besides literal snake handler and klan member JOAT

Did you even read up on the article? If I presented 15 peer reviewed RCTs you would still have nothing of value to in which to counter and then drop some half baked racist comment per usual. 

[Ricky Spanish]

3 minutes ago, Jesse said:

Correlation not causation? Maybe the people who were vegan/vegetarian were more active? Were the breaks from overuse or were they acute injuries? Did the people who ate meat do more activities that triggers osteoblasts and the ossification of bone?

 

I’m no scientists, but these are the first questions that come to mind. It’s more of an observation than study, but interesting. 

They controlled for activity level, among other things.

https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-020-01815-3

 

[saX man]

Interesting article. Also why all this random vitriol and hyper-defensiveness? Geez people

[WarHeel]

2 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

I see no reason this topic is even in the main forum.

Some folks can’t help themselves when facts are presented that disagree with their logic.

[PhillyB]

11 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

@PhillyB

The study itself goes into great depth. Don't write it off just because you disagree with it.

Also from study lead author Dr Tammy Tong,

"Well-balanced and predominantly plant-based diets can result in improved nutrient levels and have been linked to lower risks of diseases including heart disease and diabetes.

"Individuals should take into account the benefits and risks of their diet, and ensure they have adequate levels of calcium and protein and also maintain a healthy BMI, that is, neither under nor overweight."

 

no issue with that. i'm not vegan, i just don't think that study in the OP (or its conclusions per the article) are applicable in any way to pro athletes