Joe Brady, “I believe Teddy is a Franchise QB.”

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Teddy needs a defense that gets off the field on third down. He is basically playing to keep the opposing offenses off the field, which limits the play calling and requires Teddy to manage the clock more.  He needs a line that allows him to keep his feet planted longer. We are not CALLING deep routes because the OL--and everyone is yelling at Teddy for not throwing more deep passes. 

Teddy seems to be rushing through his progressions faster--I think he looks to Robby first on most plays and he possibly skips from the #1 WR to the checkdown--skipping the #2 to avoid a sack.  So he is going pre-snap read to determine #1--usually Robby---to the safe checkdown--Samuel or the back.  So who gets overlooked a lot?  Moore.  The TEs.  It is consistent with the stats.

 

This 1000%. Exactly! Glad to see someone else is watching the same stuff I am.

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Well, Teddy is a dink and dunk beast! 

Sure, he can do that, but he has an arm, too -- we're not just giving him any time to use it. Plus, he has no defense to give him a chance at either good field position or just a chance to go up a score. Most games we are trading touchdowns back and forth (or FGs) and he's scoring with the best of the league out there, toe to toe, but we don't have the offensive line for him to match that pace. Imagine the points he would be up if we just made the opponents punt two to three times a game.

Blaming Teddy or calling him a dink and dunk game manager is just missing what is happening.

[tiger7_88]

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Joe Brady, “I believe Teddy is a Franchise QB.”

[raleigh-panther]

3 hours ago, Kentucky Panther said:

I can’t wait to work with Cam Newton - Matt Rhule

Exactly right

on Brady, maybe if he says it enough it will come true. There is nothing in the body of work of Bridgewater that screams ‘franchise QB’  I don’t care how many check downs he does which Inflate his stats 

[Varking]

It’s a non story. How many coaches would go on record saying their current QB isn’t a franchise QB?

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, Snake said:

Coaches normally don't throw players under the bus unless they are Ron Rivera. 

Or Bruce Arians.

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Sure, he can do that, but he has an arm, too -- we're not just giving him any time to use it. Plus, he has no defense to give him a chance at either good field position or just a chance to go up a score. Most games we are trading touchdowns back and forth (or FGs) and he's scoring with the best of the league out there, toe to toe, but we don't have the offensive line for him to match that pace. Imagine the points he would be up if we just made the opponents punt two to three times a game.

Blaming Teddy or calling him a dink and dunk game manager is just missing what is happening.

I agree with you there, but I've also seen him on drives at game's end, and I don't believe it's all about lack of time, though, admittedly, he may be hearing footsteps from running for his life. 

[Harbingers]

I think there is going to be a lot of disappointed people come draft day. Brady really likes Teddy. I see us picking up a legit backup in a later round. 

[Davidson Deac II]

The definition of franchise qb varies from person to person, so Brady is not wrong, even if it might be just coach speak.  

[Proudiddy]

Glad he does.

[onmyown]

6 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I think he believes it--Teddy was his idea, so to speak.  And Brady is young and Teddy is about his age--probably friends by now (both well-liked people).  I worry about Rhule's bonds with players for the same reason--in college, you had them for 4-5 years then they were done.  Will Rhule be able to detach from players with whom he has established a bond? We really need a GM with an objective eye and strong backbone.  So let's assume the Panthers think Bridgewater is a franchise QB:

Bridgewater gets better with a stud OL and TE.   We need a top 5 defense. We can win with TB.

Let's say we draft 10th and Lance is the only top 4 qb there.  So many will be saying, "Take Lance!!!"  But behind the scenes, teams like New England, Indy, etc, will be ready to offer a ton to move up.  Do you go with a B- QB (What I give Teddy, fwiw) hoping that you draft a QB that will one day become a B+ to A- QB?  Or do you trade the pick and get a potential All-Pro LT and Center, turning a D offensive line into a B offensive line? 

 

 

If we look at the past 20 years of history, any team going to the super bowl needs a top defense, with few exceptions.

Generally QB play has mattered very little in the super bowl. It’s rare any qb has big numbers in any game the closer you get to the super bowl. 

At that point it’s all about red zone efficiency (offense and defense) and making/causing a mistake.

I think TB could get there but he’s got to stop with late game mistakes, which is difficult for him since the oline only plays 30 minutes of football every Sunday.

Also red zone efficiency for the defense is another universe away from even being competitive.

I think trading up for Sewell would be smart because it won’t matter what your QB plans are - LT is a must. Then fix the secondary beca. It just isn’t worth trading when all these holes are here. When winning teams trade up to get their guy it works because they already have a good team. The Panthers would just be sabotaging themselves unless they sat their guy which I am on board with.

 

[Harbingers]

38 minutes ago, onmyown said:

If we look at the past 20 years of history, any team going to the super bowl needs a top defense, with few exceptions.

 

Not just the past 20 years. From 1966 to current only 10 teams have had a defense outside of the top 10.

 

[Kentucky Panther]

“We can win with Teddy” makes me cringe. Sure, if he has the perfect team around him, our window could be a year or two. We shouldn’t be limited to that, though.  If we had a better QB, we could have a much bigger SB window while our roster fluctuates season to season 

[KSpan]

2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Not just the past 20 years. From 1966 to current only 10 teams have had a defense outside of the top 10.

 

And the offenses are typically good as well, with dynamic star QBs typically on both sides of the ball. None of this is surprising, as it typically takes great offense with flexible approaches to overcome great defense.