at what point do you just bench tre boston to send a message

[Proudiddy]

Both Boston and Whitehead need to be benched and don't need to be out there unless injury forces them out there for the rest of the season.  It's fine, they can still be mentors and "leaders" from the bench, but they suck and aren't helping on the field.  Give those snaps to the young guys.

Also, sounds like Rhule has reached his limit.  He just specifically called out somebody for not doing their assignment on the 98 yard run and said we're not good enough for guys to not do their job.  He also repeatedly said, "We can't play like that.  We can't coach like that."

[philit99]

1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Panthers aren’t winning another game with or without Boston so who honestly cares it makes no difference 

Well you can give guys that try, the experience. Boston and Whitehead are taking away from other players. Who cares if we win another game, get guys experience that will help out in the future. My god it can’t hurt.

[Fox007]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My concern is that Tre is one of "their guys". I can't see any other reason that someone else hasn't been given a shot by now. Whitehead was losing snaps to Taylor before he got hurt.

Is a legit concern...

[ImaginaryKev]

I'm just glad Matt Rhule is such a good coach we know exactly who the bad players are and need to be replaced so we can adjust our mock drafts accordingly

[ImaginaryKev]

Coverage safety, LB, IOL, we all agree. If Ron Rivera were coach we wouldn't even know if YGM and Chinn could play lol

[Proudiddy]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

My concern is that Tre is one of "their guys". I can't see any other reason that someone else hasn't been given a shot by now. Whitehead was losing snaps to Taylor before he got hurt.

My hope is, they only left him in there to this point bc they felt we still had a shot to make the playoffs this season and he had the experience...  so they favored that over development and risking someone being worse.  I think it's safe to say now, that matrix has intersected simultaneously now knowing this team isn't making the playoffs AND it's clear no one is going to be worse than him at this point...  so I expect a change soon...  if there isn't I am also concerned.

[philit99]

The fact that we are discussing Boston is half my problem. Why are we constantly blaming Boston when most of these issues are on the Linebacker. On most run plays 1-2 other players have to fail before it is Boston’s responsibility. We got spoiled by great Line backer play and now we are paying for it.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

6 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

I'm just glad Matt Rhule is such a good coach we know exactly who the bad players are and need to be replaced so we can adjust our mock drafts accordingly

I'm not sure if you are serious, His style is more entertaining than Riveras for sure but some flaws are now starting to show up. He is over using the college tricks.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

4 minutes ago, philit99 said:

The fact that we are discussing Boston is half my problem. Why are we constantly blaming Boston when most of these issues are on the Linebacker. On most run plays 1-2 other players have to fail before it is Boston’s responsibility. We got spoiled by great Line backer play and now we are paying for it.

Not a great argument the issue is far from isolated to the run game... 

[Harbingers]

4 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

I'm not sure if you are serious, His style is more entertaining than Riveras for sure but some flaws are now starting to show up. He is over using the college tricks.

The NFL starts in the trenches and we aren't winning the trenches on either side of the ball. Rhule could be a mad genius and use every trick in the book, he can do his college style till the cows come home. If you don't win the trenches you don't win the NFL.

I mean 10 sacks.... we are just barely better than...

• Fewest Sacks, Season, 10

Kansas City Chiefs: 2008

Fewest Sacks, Season
11	Baltimore	1982
12	Buffalo	1982
13	Baltimore	1981

[philit99]

2 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Not a great argument the issue is far from isolated to the run game... 

True, I guess my argument is that I expect my tackles or linebackers to shed blocks. Why do I constantly rely on my safeties or corners to make the tackles in the run game.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

The NFL starts in the trenches and we aren't winning the trenches on either side of the ball. Rhule could be a mad genius and use every trick in the book, he can do his college style till the cows come home. If you don't win the trenches you don't win the NFL.

The offensive line is literally offensive, We have some talented youth on the defensive line but lack depth.

[ImaginaryKev]

2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

The NFL starts in the trenches and we aren't winning the trenches on either side of the ball. Rhule could be a mad genius and use every trick in the book, he can do his college style till the cows come home. If you don't win the trenches you don't win the NFL.

You're right. 

The defensive line is as talented as anyone else but learning on the job

Offensive line needs more talent

[ImaginaryKev]

Wishful thinking says we draft a talented OG in the first three rounds and sign Joe Thuney