2021 potential Cap casualties

[panther4life]

Edit: Adjusted numbers to be correct!

All of this info can be double checked and confirmed by clicking herehttps://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/2021/

Click on the players name, go to 2021, and click the red x on the right and it will provide you accurate numbers. Thanks for fact checking toomers.

For this exercise I’m going to assume all cuts are done as post June 1st. As toomers pointed out, only 2 can be designated post 1 June 1st before June 1st.
 

These 3 are almost certainly gone:

Short: 14.5Million in savings, carries additional dead cap of 6.339 Million into 2022.

Paradis: 8.53 million in savings, carries additional dead cap of 3.6 million into 2022

Weatherly: 5.95 million in savings, carries additional 0 dead cap into 2022. This one works out the same whether done before or after June 1st.

These 3 alone would free up 28.98 Million. This would more than double the 26 million spotrac has us slated to have going into 2021 with 34 under contract currently( including all listed in this post).

These 3 I’d consider maybes:

Shaq: 10.98 million in savings. Carries additional 6.4 in dead money into 2022.  Seems unlikely we’d just let him go for nothing and I think the team/coaches still like him, but there’s a small chance he made he trade bait. New team wouldn’t have any guaranteed money owed to him and would get him at 10.8 base salary for 2021.

Tre Boston: 3.55 million in cap savings. Carries additional dead cap of 2.66 into 2022. I know he’s a hated man on here but the cap savings is not much. Currently slated for 6.2 million cap hit next year but would carry 5.33 in dead money. Only a net savings of 900k, even tho we get 3.5 in 2021, but then have to carry the 2.6 dead money into 2022.

Juston Burris: 3.89 million in cap savings and carries 1.055 in dead cap to 2022. If we keep him for 2021, his cap hit would be 4.95, then he’d be a free agent with no dead cap. If he’s in long term plans could extend him and lower that cap figure as well. (27 years old).

Nobody else makes much sense to cut, as there isn’t much to gain. Aside from maybe Palardy if we replace him with a late round rookie.

 

 

[Panther Believer]

Great stuff and thanks for the content. Stephen Weatherly and KK getting away with robbery so they're all but gone lol.

[Seltzer]

Short is a no brainer, unless he takes a massive pay cut.  Even then, I'm not sure his shoulders will allow him to ever get back.

Paradis is a little more of a question.  He has definitely played better this season, still not the upper crust Center he was in Denver.

Weatherly can go or restructure/ take a pay cut.  OK rotational player but nothing more.

As for Shaq, Boston, and Burris, I can't see any reason to cut based on how much it would cost to get replacement level players.

Good post OP though for researching where we are at salary cap wise.

[Basbear]

I know this will not be popular, but Paradis may be extended. Short the same, but faar more unlikely. Simple take the 2020 salary and turn it into a signing bonus. Then it becomes what the yearly average and bonuses are. Its possible to reach a fair deal for the team and player in both.  

The team is a looooong way form being stable.

I cheated during the year and looked ahead. Roughly need 26 players with the expected cuts... If you keep the draft picks, add in 3 UDFAs, and tender some FAs it cuts the number in half. 

 

 

[Seltzer]

Also, I think this team is in much better cap shape than a lot of teams next year.

The biggest thing this team needs to do to compete next year is continue to draft well and continue to add talent.

With this coaching staff, we are not that far away.

Getting a "franchise" MLB again like we have been accustomed to will go a long way

[Toomers]

   These numbers are wrong in many ways. If you need help, the site has the exact numbers for any scenario. 

[panther4life]

23 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   These numbers are wrong in many ways. If you need help, the site has the exact numbers for any scenario. 

I’m not claiming to be an expert. But that’s my understanding of how it works and that formula seems to have been proven accurate in years past.

If you know better please elaborate.
 

[MHS831]

I have done the same peeking myself, and drew the same conclusions.  Exactly.  So either you are comforted by the affirmation of a peer, or you need to go back to the drawing board because that peer was MHS831. 

Thanks for this--I took it a step further--re-signing Moton and Samuel will cost about $20-24m) Since Post june 1 cutting counts against the cap until they are actually cut, it gets a bit confusing for me---

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, panther4life said:

I’m not claiming to be an expert. But that’s my understanding of how it works and that formula seems to have been proven accurate in years past.

If you know better please elaborate.
 

   Post June 1 cuts aren’t just split equally. The first year is whatever guaranteed money would have come off that year. Then whatever is left. All you have to do is click on the red X on the right for the numbers. 
 

   And just because you cut someone as a post June 1st, doesn’t mean you get all the space right away. You get the 2nd year cap charge back but not until June 1. 
 

   And you only get to designate two players(at most). Everyone else the team would have to actually wait to cut them after 6/1. 
 

     

[panther4life]

3 minutes ago, Toomers said:

   Post June 1 cuts aren’t just split equally. The first year is whatever guaranteed money would have come off that year. Then whatever is left. All you have to do is click on the red X on the right for the numbers. 
 

   And just because you cut someone as a post June 1st, doesn’t mean you get all the space right away. You get the 2nd year cap charge back but not until June 1. 
 

   And you only get to designate two players(at most). Everyone else the team would have to actually wait to cut them after 6/1. 
 

     

Thanks, you're correct. I like that it does the work for you now. I'll update the op

[jfra78]

Paradis will be here next year.  We have enough holes to fill on our line and he has played decent this year.

[4Corners]

17 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Paradis will be here next year.  We have enough holes to fill on our line and he has played decent this year.

Yeah I tend to agree with this.

[Waldo]

I would just like to say yes to the entire list. I don't think it will happen but I would be all for it.

[theinstrumental]

Tre will probably be back as well. Unless they're going to replace him with a rookie, it's hard to find useable safeties with the $3M in savings that they'd get from him. At his contract he'd be palatable as a second/third safety even if they get someone else.