Is Moore really better than Samuel?

[Untouchable]

5 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

The difference is it seems you can depend on Samuel getting open more often than Moore. Moore wins in a more physical contested catch situation

That's what I've seen as the main difference with the two. Samuel has issues in contested catch situations and with tracking the deep ball. Moore struggles breaking press and creating seperation with his routes. To me, seperation and route running is more important so I'd take Samuel over Moore. Glad the team doesn't have to choose this season, but could make for some interesting choices in the offseason.

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, Varking said:

Brady can call any play he wants. If the QB makes a bad read he makes a bad read. When there are two games back to back where Moore was left uncovered for a play and Teddy misses it... that’s not on a play caller. 

Thats not how it works. If Moore is open like its thought and he is the first reason teddy looks his way first. If its there you throw it if not then you go through progressions... you think he looks at Moore and says I know your my first read but nah...

[onmyown]

Moore has been called out twice by teammates/smitty. And both times looked significantly better after it. That worries me about motivation. 
 

God knows the last thing this team needs is yet another guy who disappears after being paid and for that reason I’m 99% sure Hurney will resign him.

[Varking]

11 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Thats not how it works. If Moore is open like its thought and he is the first reason teddy looks his way first. If its there you throw it if not then you go through progressions... you think he looks at Moore and says I know your my first read but nah...

I didn’t say that at all. Its like you looked at my post and said I know what you said but nah...

[micnificent28]

7 minutes ago, Varking said:

I didn’t say that at all. Its like you looked at my post and said I know what you said but nah...

So your saying he's the first read and is open but teddy isn't throwing it? Seems to me after a few games of this teddy would get an ear full from coaches 

[Varking]

Just now, micnificent28 said:

So your saying he's the first read and is open but teddy isn't throwing it? Seems to me after a few games of this teddy would get an ear full from coaches 

You are 0/2 on trying to tell me what I’m saying. Also, who is to say Teddy hasn’t or isnt getting an earful from coaches after they watch film? Or you know... like when a coach is at a podium super hyped that you “CANT TAKE A SACK THERE” multiple times. 

[micnificent28]

I asked you what your saying hence thr question mark. But if its a continued thing were seeing im assuming they aren't giving teddy an ear full. Maybe a pat on the back for make the correct read? I agree with the sack situations. I'm just looking at his production and overall effectiveness. If he's the number 1 scheme him open, screens hell even put him back there like samuel in the back field.

[Carl Spackler]

Teddy targets defensive backs more than he targets Moore. 

[NAS]

DJ is open a lot, Teddy just doesn’t look his way. If ai was DJ I would be pissed

[micnificent28]

Well then the problem is teddy then. Either DJ isn't getting separation at the same level of samuel or Teddy isn't making the right reads?? 

[SetfreexX]

Samuel is doing what he is supposed to do versus the nickel corners out of the slot, we have two legit weapons on the perimeter in Moore and Anderson, the team's weapons are complimentary -- we could use a QB that pulls the trigger a little more vertically, BUT we also need an OL that can stand up long enough to do so and with all the injuries up front we've lost some explosiveness. 

[Snake]

Big players make big plays. Moore made none yesterday. At this point Samuel needs to be paid and Moore doesn't. I mean he's a really good WE but not as good and versatile as Samuel. 

[SetfreexX]

3 minutes ago, Snake said:

Big players make big plays. Moore made none yesterday. At this point Samuel needs to be paid and Moore doesn't. I mean he's a really good WE but not as good and versatile as Samuel. 

Teddy doesn't look his way, plenty of all 22 cut ups of Moore open and Teddy not seeing it for whatever reason. 

[Ja Rhule]

6 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Teddy doesn't look his way, plenty of all 22 cut ups of Moore open and Teddy not seeing it for whatever reason. 

I think Teddy afraid of throwing deep.