Zero killer instinct for Teddy

[mav1234]

Just now, bull123 said:

Not on that drive

and where was DJ?...all day for that matter

CMC caught two passes on the final drive (for a total of 1 yard, although 1 was on a play with a penalty against KC)

[KSpan]

6 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Everybody missing something big here on that last drive

CMC was not on the field...he is our best player, one of the best in the league...he is a difference maker

and teddy would have been going to him 

CMC caught that pass at the sideline and made it out of bounds early in the drive...?

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

People don’t want to see defenses around the NFL. They just want to pretend like we are the worst in the NFL. 

The state of defense as a whole is pitiful... that being said our third down and redzone defense are both in the bottom 5.

[KSpan]

57 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

hell he did go to him... when he shouldn't have... which is how CMC got injured.

Honestly the Chiefs would have given up deep middle of the field I imagine to protect the sidelines.  I'd be curious to see what the playcalls were and who was open.

When Carolina had 1st and 20 earlier in the game.both KC safeties were 8 yards off the LOS. They had zero fear of any deep (like actual deep, not 20-yards-deep) passing threat.

[Dragoon11]

5 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

The state of defense as a whole is pitiful... that being said our third down and redzone defense are both in the bottom 5.

And third down defense (their ability to get off the field) is the definition of "killer instinct"... Hell, the whole team needs it, not just Teddy.

[Varking]

5 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

The state of defense as a whole is pitiful... that being said our third down and redzone defense are both in the bottom 5.

100%. 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

1 hour ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Yeah, I feel like the amount of excuses Teddy needs is going up continuously. 

You should have see the crap people came up with to defend Cam lol.

[Varking]

10 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

You should have see the crap people came up with to defend Cam lol.

Offensive talent around him wasn’t great and he won an MVP and took us to a Super Bowl with Teddy Stonehands and Philly Brown. Teddy B has 11 passing touchdowns in 9 games after getting a 20+ million dollar multi year contract. Cam needs no defending this season or the last two. For an offense that has the only running back that had 1k/1k/100 in a season, a 1k yard receiver, a free agent receiver playing above his pay level and Curtis Samuel being the king of third downs... we shouldn’t have to make up so many excuses as a fan base for non clutch QB play. 
Even today we were up what? 14-3? What happened? Why couldn’t we continue to score? Everyone wants to blame playcalling because they don’t know what play was called or what read was made but at the end of the day even the worst playcall looks good when players execute. Unfortunately, when it comes time to be clutch Teddy, amongst others has failed to execute. Our offense has too much talent to be in the bottom half of the league.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

32 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

You should have see the crap people came up with to defend Cam lol.

To be fair, some were legit. His offensive line at times were worse than Teddy’s and Cam never had the weapons Teddy had. Or Coaches. Did have a better defense, though. Most of the time. 

[tiger7_88]

13 hours ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

To be fair, some were legit. His offensive line at times were worse than Teddy’s and Cam never had the weapons Teddy had. Or Coaches. Did have a better defense, though. Most of the time. 

Actually “most of the time” (except for 2 or 3 special seasons) MoRon Rivera’s defenses were NFL middle-of-the-pack or lower.

Kinda like this season.

Carolina having great defenses year after year under MoRon Rivera is a huge myth that somehow continues to get propagated.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Actually “most of the time” (except for 2 or 3 special seasons) MoRon Rivera’s defenses were NFL middle-of-the-pack or lower.

Kinda like this season.

Carolina having great defenses year after year under MoRon Rivera is a huge myth that somehow continues to get propagated.

Well, defensive personnel at least. Personnel on the back end is about the same. Rivera always neglected CB's and the safety position. 

[Mr. Scot]

Rivera believed you could get by with average secondary if you had good enough pass rush.

[KSpan]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rivera believed you could get by with average secondary if you had good enough pass rush.

It's a reasonable strategy that worked in 2013 (if you argue that offense was the limiting factor), but Rivera also generally had elite-level linebackers (Luke and TD here, Briggs and Urlacher in Chicago) . Not so much in SD but he did have a very solid secondary with Jammer, Cromartie, Weddle, and Cason (was decent in SD). He also had a top-flight secondary in Chicago as well. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, KSpan said:

It's a reasonable strategy that worked in 2013 (if you argue that offense was the limiting factor), but Rivera also generally had elite-level linebackers (Luke and TD here, Briggs and Urlacher in Chicago) . Not so much in SD but he did have a very solid secondary with Jammer, Cromartie, Weddle, and Cason (was decent in SD). He also had a top-flight secondary in Chicago as well. 

Rivera wasn't head coach in San Diego or Chicago though. He didn't have the full reins.

But yeah, it can work. You could argue that's how the Giants won one of their recent Super Bowls.

The way today's rules favor offense though, I'd say it's a harder path than it used to be.