Does this franchise enjoy shitty offensive line play?

[BIGH2001]

Seriously, this is ridiculous.  It doesn’t seem to matter who is in charge, how the hell does our offensive line suck every single fuging year.  You can go back to 1997 when Kerry Collins broke his jaw, dumpster diving Dave who got Cam killed with 5 garbage cans, and the disaster that is this year.  We’ve had a few nice pieces here and there (Kalil, Gross, Turner before he sucked, Norwell) but yet we never put it together. We lost the super bowl because of a trash free agent pickup instead of having an actual right tackle. 
 

we seem to be right back in the same position and we just spent all 7 draft picks on defense. When will this team wake the fug up and realize that fielding an actual line is important to the game of football?

[stbugs]

1 hour ago, BIGH2001 said:

Seriously, this is ridiculous.  It doesn’t seem to matter who is in charge, how the hell does our offensive line suck every single fuging year.  You can go back to 1997 when Kerry Collins broke his jaw, dumpster diving Dave who got Cam killed with 5 garbage cans, and the disaster that is this year.  We’ve had a few nice pieces here and there (Kalil, Gross, Turner before he sucked, Norwell) but yet we never put it together. We lost the super bowl because of a trash free agent pickup instead of having an actual right tackle. 
 

we seem to be right back in the same position and we just spent all 7 draft picks on defense. When will this team wake the fug up and realize that fielding an actual line is important to the game of football?

We didn’t lose the SB because of Remmers. We lost because we didn’t scheme around their best defenders. Look at the game against Denver in week 1 of 2016. We were up 17-7 at half and Collinsworth did a segment on how well Remmers did against Miller and specifically mentioned the adjustments we were making. Denver had 3 sacks in week 1. 2 were on the last drive with 3 minutes left in the game where Gano missed the game winner. The 3rd sack was in the 3rd quarter. I remember the game and how when we started to fall behind Cam started dropping deeper just like Shula’s typical MO.

We lost because of the refs, fumbles and the inability of our coaches to make a single damn adjustment after the Atlanta loss. We finally schemed and scored 17 in a half against the same D and kept them off Cam. We went back to the Cam save us deep drops late in that game and Gano blew it.

[shaqattaq]

2 hours ago, BIGH2001 said:

we seem to be right back in the same position and we just spent all 7 draft picks on defense. When will this team wake the fug up and realize that fielding an actual line is important to the game of football?

I agree with your sentiment, BUT, to play devils advocate, we had a lot of holes on D and I really like what I've seen from all of our day 1 and 2 picks. We also picked up 2 guards and a LT in free agency. Okung has played pretty solid when he's not injured. No comment on the guards.

I really think (hope and pray) that we work on the O-line a lot this offseason.

[electro's horse]

hurney clearly has a humiliation fetish and it is not our place to judge or enforce our values. 

[Shotgun]

[stirs]

Would not hurt to see an OT, G and C out of this draft

[LinvilleGorge]

Wait a minute... you're actually allowed to BLOCK the opposing team's defense???

Why in the hell has no one informed the Panthers' organization of this development??!!!

[Snake]

At some point we are going to need staff that can actually evaluate good talent. That's our biggest problem not who we pick up in the draft and FA because we have already been doing that. That's the entire line. A entire line of poor talent evaluation. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Snake said:

At some point we are going to need staff that can actually evaluate good talent. That's our biggest problem not who we pick up in the draft and FA because we have already been doing that. That's the entire line. A entire line of poor talent evaluation. 

Who's to say these guys can't? Okung has looked good when healthy. The rest of the OL moves this off-season were trash heap vets.

[Mr. Scot]

Rhule has a background as an OL coach and this is only his first year, so I'm not ready to say he's a problem yet.

[BIGH2001]

Marty Hurney’s big OL moves in his second term  have been signing Paradis and drafting guys who can’t see the field even with the current line we have.  

Im just sick of this poo year after year.  When was the last time a panthers QB wasn’t running for his life every other play? 

[GoobyPls]

This is what happens when you don’t draft OL in the first round for a decade and try plugging them in with stop gap cheap veterans. Even that 2015 team we ran more max protection than any team in the league, no team with a great line runs max protection.

[NAS]

OL is a top priority in the draft. .   But we also need to get better at finding value in second and third rounds just like we got a future all pro like Jeremy Chinn.  I hope Rhule has more input going forward.

[Snake]

32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Who's to say these guys can't? Okung has looked good when healthy. The rest of the OL moves this off-season were trash heap vets.

I'm not really laying blame on Rhule as much as Hurney. He was making moves even before Rhule was coach. Hopefully his insights help get younger players who actually can.