Teddy experiment needs to be over

[Icege]

2 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Yeah, he's a stopgap, and he will always be that way. Holy poo dude. REALLY? And we need the QB to learn the ropes under him for a year. Like Mahomes did under Smith. 

Why are you being a weirdo and grouping people? 

[mav1234]

For this coming draft... QB isn't the kind of need where no matter what we know we're getting a new QB.  Not yet, at least.  Mahomes is a good comparison - the chiefs stuck with Smith for years before they found the right guy to replace him.  I could see us doing the same, at least for next year. 

This team is far more than a QB away from the superb owl.

[TheRumGone]

6 minutes ago, Icege said:

Totally fine with people thinking Teddy is a bridge QB. Not fine at all with people suggesting that we go draft a day two QB in the first and stick them behind a porous offensive line as if that's going to make the team more successful. We saw Cam get killed and his career shortened by not adequately protecting him.

Offensive line, given the contracts and what's expiring, is in much dire need of being addressed. Cam stans can downplay Teddy all they want, but it doesn't change that no matter who is behind center they're going to get murdered.

Most people want a top qb from this draft because it’s a loaded qb class. Zach, trey or fields. Obviously Lawrence is a jet. If we don’t get those top3 we continue to build the lines up. I haven’t seen any “cam stans” wanting a day 2 qb with a top 10 pick. Those three qbs I mentioned are round 1 qbs right now imo. If the team has a qb they like you do not pass it up. Franchise qbs are hard to get. And the good thing is we have teddy to play next year so that qb can sit and learn while we build up the line. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

7 minutes ago, Icege said:

Why are you being a weirdo and grouping people? 

[TheRumGone]

11 minutes ago, Icege said:

Totally fine with people thinking Teddy is a bridge QB.

Also you were not fine with this for months until this post.

[Icege]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Most people want a top qb from this draft because it’s a loaded qb class. Zach, trey or fields. Obviously Lawrence is a jet. If we don’t get those top3 we continue to build the lines up. I haven’t seen any “cam stans” wanting a day 2 qb with a top 10 pick. Those three qbs I mentioned are round 1 qbs right now imo. 

I've seen a few bring up Trask in the 1st as well as Wilson. Wilson had a 5th round grade coming into the season and has been lighting it up, but there are still concerns about his size. If he keeps putting his arm talent on display, I can see him sneaking in to the first, but would that be an immediate upgrade for the team over say a top 10 prospect that plays OL, TE, or MLB that fell due to a run on QBs to start? I'd rather gamble on Micah Parsons if he slips out of the top 10 than Kyle Trask (Wilson I've gotta see keep it up for a few more games, but he's definitely an intriguing prospect)

[Icege]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

Also you were not fine with this for months until this post.

I was fine with folks thinking it, I wasn't fine with folks claiming it as a definite before giving the man an opportunity. When people are saying he's a stopgap because he's 28 yet they ignore the time lost to injury, yea that's dumb on their part. :3

[Varking]

Just now, Icege said:

I've seen a few bring up Trask in the 1st as well as Wilson. Wilson had a 5th round grade coming into the season and has been lighting it up, but there are still concerns about his size. If he keeps putting his arm talent on display, I can see him sneaking in to the first, but would that be an immediate upgrade for the team over say a top 10 prospect that plays OL, TE, or MLB that fell due to a run on QBs to start? I'd rather gamble on Micah Parsons if he slips out of the top 10 than Kyle Trask (Wilson I've gotta see keep it up for a few more games, but he's definitely an intriguing prospect)

If Trask and Parsons are both available we would be stupid to pick Trask. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

22 minutes ago, Icege said:

What hypocrisy? I am confused. 

[uncfan888]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

Unfortunately, many of the folks reacting positively to this have been very vocal about not believing Teddy should get any shots. Their post history tells on em. ~\_(ツ)_/~

I think he's having his shot. But I'm not opposed to them giving him protection and seeing what he can do. I still don't think he's the one though. Too many late game mistakes

[TheRumGone]

14 minutes ago, Icege said:

I've seen a few bring up Trask in the 1st as well as Wilson. Wilson had a 5th round grade coming into the season and has been lighting it up, but there are still concerns about his size. If he keeps putting his arm talent on display, I can see him sneaking in to the first, but would that be an immediate upgrade for the team over say a top 10 prospect that plays OL, TE, or MLB that fell due to a run on QBs to start? I'd rather gamble on Micah Parsons if he slips out of the top 10 than Kyle Trask (Wilson I've gotta see keep it up for a few more games, but he's definitely an intriguing prospect)

No on trask for me. Wilson is a baller. Can throw it all over the field from different angles. I’m still really high on Lance but we’ll see. 
 

if the team feels one of these guys is a franchise qb I’m not gonna be pissed we didn’t take an OL or MLB.

14 minutes ago, Icege said:

I was fine with folks thinking it, I wasn't fine with folks claiming it as a definite before giving the man an opportunity. When people are saying he's a stopgap because he's 28 yet they ignore the time lost to injury, yea that's dumb on their part. :3

Well he’s proving us right as the season goes on :-)

[nctarheelreincarnated]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

I think he's having his shot. But I'm not opposed to them giving him protection and seeing what he can do. I still don't think he's the one though. Too many late game mistakes

You're sugar coating it. 

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

4 hours ago, Icege said:

Why are you being a weirdo and grouping people? 

It's a chuck thing.

[Icege]

4 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

No on trask for me. Wilson is a baller. Can throw it all over the field from different angles. I’m still really high on Lance but we’ll see. 
 

if the team feels one of these guys is a franchise qb I’m not gonna be pissed we didn’t take an OL or MLB.

I'm very interested to see how Wilson finishes up the season as he might be available in the middle of the first. I think somebody takes a shot on Lance in the top 10. Big question will be the shuffling that could occur should Lawrence try to avoid the Jets.

Well he’s proving us right as the season goes on

:-)