Teddy experiment needs to be over

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

3 minutes ago, trueblade said:

The same logic was offered in arguments to retain Ron Rivera as head coach of the Carolina Panthers.

They forgot about John Fox... 

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

I don't recall any of those for a few seasons... I do remember lots of horrible no huddle though.

His last couple of years he was injured but he has a history of 4th quarter comebacks. This isn’t even debatable lol. I don’t even want to talk about Cam. This is about teddy and how people evaluate if he’s the answer at the qb position.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

16 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd say this: barring injury there's no way I want to see anybody else on our quarterback depth chart starting this season.

He may not be the future but he's definitely the immediate future.

I would prefer someone else start. Gives us a better chance at Fields. 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

3 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

His last couple of years he was injured but he has a history of 4th quarter comebacks. This isn’t even debatable lol. I don’t even want to talk about Cam. This is about teddy and how people evaluate if he’s the answer at the qb position.

Sounds like an excuse to me funny how they come built in when it comes to Cam. "he's got no oline" check "he's got no defense "double check" 

[Shotgun]

1 hour ago, Zod said:

Some of you think it is so easy to find an amazing franchise QB. 

Then why do less than half of all NFL teams have one?

We aren't one of them.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

4 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

I would prefer someone else start. Gives us a better chance at Fields. 

When we make history with a second only defense draft don't hurt yourself it's just football.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

3 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

We are one of them.

Technically we are a franchise and we have a quarterback.... strictly speaking you are incorrect.

[Icege]

19 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

One was a first overall pick with ten billion times the talent of the other. You could see it on the field. Arm talent, scramble ability, big play making ability. Once again, the last play of his game he throws a horrible pick with no pressure. 
 

people also aren’t gleeful about this we want to win and want the best for this team. Hence saying teddy ain’t it we want better. We’re gleeful that we’ve been proven right when others have talked poo and made ridiculous proclamations like teddy is the best qb in the NFCS and brought up Cam as if that has anything to do with Teddys play right now. Teddy has a weak arm. Because he makes a deep throw once in awhile and we get to see dumbass tEdDy CaNt ThRoW deEp posts. Teddy is a solid qb in this league, we should be looking for great.

Cam was definitely the better prospect back in 2011 when he was drafted, but just because a QB was drafted at the end of the 1st doesn't mean that you don't put pieces around them to succeed. When he had an offensive line and weapons, he put up record breaking numbers his first two seasons. When he had an elite defense and an average line, the team went 15-1. The fact of the matter is that regardless of how super one player might be, there are 10 other guys on the field with them that have to do their job. To ignore those other 10 positions on one side of the ball is to set up ANY QB for failure.

Winning isn't what is best for the team? Creating a losing culture to take lottery tickets that gives the team a draft placement a cpl of spots higher? I thought we had addressed that already when we drafted Brian Burns and folks insisted that winning the final game put us out of reach of an impact player. I don't think telling players that they can potentially waste a year of their already short careers in Carolina since the team will look for draft positioning before being halfway through the season is a championship winning formula.

Let's not be coy either: Cam gets brought up because a majority of the "We need a franchise queue beeeeee" go out of their way to discredit Teddy's solid plays. If they didn't post dumb poo like, "tEddY cAn't thrOw dEEp" then maybe they wouldn't get their faces mashed into it every time Teddy throws deep.

Side note: Matt Stafford only has 2 completed deep passes this season. Hopefully we can compare Teddy to him since we aren't allowed to compare him to Cam.

I mean, if we need those citations, we can get the receipts unless folks' get their posting history deleted again.

[Zod]

8 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

His last couple of years he was injured but he has a history of 4th quarter comebacks. This isn’t even debatable lol.

True, Cam has 15 in his career. 

Teddy has 5. 

 

[hepcat]

3 minutes ago, Icege said:

Cam was definitely the better prospect back in 2011 when he was drafted, but just because a QB was drafted at the end of the 1st doesn't mean that you don't put pieces around them to succeed. When he had an offensive line and weapons, he put up record breaking numbers his first two seasons. When he had an elite defense and an average line, the team went 15-1. The fact of the matter is that regardless of how super one player might be, there are 10 other guys on the field with them that have to do their job. To ignore those other 10 positions on one side of the ball is to set up ANY QB for failure.

Winning isn't what is best for the team? Creating a losing culture to take lottery tickets that gives the team a draft placement a cpl of spots higher? I thought we had addressed that already when we drafted Brian Burns and folks insisted that winning the final game put us out of reach of an impact player. I don't think telling players that they can potentially waste a year of their already short careers in Carolina since the team will look for draft positioning before being halfway through the season is a championship winning formula.

Let's not be coy either: Cam gets brought up because a majority of the "We need a franchise queue beeeeee" go out of their way to discredit Teddy's solid plays. If they didn't post dumb poo like, "tEddY cAn't thrOw dEEp" then maybe they wouldn't get their faces mashed into it every time Teddy throws deep.

Side note: Matt Stafford only has 2 completed deep passes this season. Hopefully we can compare Teddy to him since we aren't allowed to compare him to Cam.

I mean, if we need those citations, we can get the receipts unless folks' get their posting history deleted again.

Stafford would have been an elite QB on another franchise. Cat teams are trash.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

5 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

When we make history with a second only defense draft don't hurt yourself it's just football.

Na, if we get a high enough pick we'll draft a QB. 

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

3 minutes ago, Zod said:

True, Cam has 15 in his career. 

Teddy has 5. 

 

Asking for a friend, what's the difference in career starts/potential 4th quarter game winning drives? 

[Icege]

3 minutes ago, Zod said:

True, Cam has 15 in his career. 

Teddy has 5. 

 

Teddy also has 52 games (42 starts) played to Cam's 150 (149 starts).

What is that super awful phrase we hear weeks 1 - 7? I think it goes something like, "He's on pace for..."

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

Cam was definitely the better prospect back in 2011 when he was drafted, but just because a QB was drafted at the end of the 1st doesn't mean that you don't put pieces around them to succeed. When he had an offensive line and weapons, he put up record breaking numbers his first two seasons. When he had an elite defense and an average line, the team went 15-1. The fact of the matter is that regardless of how super one player might be, there are 10 other guys on the field with them that have to do their job. To ignore those other 10 positions on one side of the ball is to set up ANY QB for failure.

Winning isn't what is best for the team? Creating a losing culture to take lottery tickets that gives the team a draft placement a cpl of spots higher? I thought we had addressed that already when we drafted Brian Burns and folks insisted that winning the final game put us out of reach of an impact player. I don't think telling players that they can potentially waste a year of their already short careers in Carolina since the team will look for draft positioning before being halfway through the season.

Let's not be coy either: Cam gets brought up because a majority of the "We need a franchise queue beeeeee" go out of their way to discredit Teddy's solid plays. If they didn't post dumb poo like, "tEddY cAn't thrOw dEEp" then maybe they wouldn't get their faces mashed into it every time Teddy throws deep.

Side note: Matt Stafford only has 2 completed deep passes this season. Hopefully we can compare Teddy to him since we aren't allowed to compare him to Cam.

I mean, if we need those citations, we can get the receipts unless folks' get their posting history deleted again.

No one is saying we don’t need to upgrade the defense and oline but I’m failing to see how the oline made him throw game sealing picks in the 4th quarter? Teddy has a weak arm. Use your eyes it’s obvious. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good player and it’s ok to want an upgrade at the position. Matt Stanford can throw deep. Just because he has only two doesn’t mean anything. He has a history and using your eyes he had/has a very strong arm. 
 

the only thing I actually care about is this franchise knowing we need to upgrade the qb position and not sit tight with teddy. Or think he is the answer. You play to win. I get it. We’ll see how the draft shakes out in the next couple of years. If the prospect isn’t there this year you continue to build up the team, specifically the oline.