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Official Falcons at Panthers Gameday Thread - Part Deux - The Reckoning


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Just now, Varking said:

Partially, sure. But I’ve seen plenty of other QBs make one dude miss all the time. You don’t have to juke them out of their shoes. Just enough that you can take the contact and fall forward. 

There are a handful of QBs that can execute the read option effectively enough to outrun a LB enough to make that play, sure, but the LB kept to his assignment and was in the backfield before there was a chance.  Cam might outrun him or outmuscle him to the edge but Teddy isn't going to

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Just now, Proudiddy said:

Well, even if you take that subjective statement away from the equation, it was just the wrong decision.  I know those are split second choices, but it was very clearly the wrong one...  it looked like Davis wouldn't have even been touched before he got to the line to gain.  

TBH, both Teddy and Brady's decision-making in important situations has been absolutely atrocious this season.  If Brsdynisn't making a bad call, Teddy has been making a bad decision instead.  

I don't understand Teddy choosing to keep that there, but I also think a read option is an extremely weird call to make there.

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Just now, mav1234 said:

I don't understand Teddy choosing to keep that there, but I also think a read option is an extremely weird call to make there.

I agree, especially with a guy who isn't outrunning anyone to the edge unless the whole defense completely collapses inside...  but again, why you would even put him in that situation knowing it isn't his strong suit?  I don't get it.

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Just now, mav1234 said:

There are a handful of QBs that can execute the read option effectively enough to outrun a LB enough to make that play, sure, but the LB kept to his assignment and was in the backfield before there was a chance.  Cam might outrun him or outmuscle him to the edge but Teddy isn't going to

I personally wasn’t trying to compare him to Cam. I mean we just saw Matt Ryan run well enough to scamper for a score, Minshew makes people miss all the time, Big Ben shrugs guys off him often. One defender vs one offensive player who knows where he is moving and the defender has to guess usually works out for the offensive player. I’m not disagreeing with your assessment I just don’t think it was the worlds worst playcall. 

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Just now, Varking said:

I personally wasn’t trying to compare him to Cam. I mean we just saw Matt Ryan run well enough to scamper for a score, Minshew makes people miss all the time, Big Ben shrugs guys off him often. One defender vs one offensive player who knows where he is moving and the defender has to guess usually works out for the offensive player. I’m not disagreeing with your assessment I just don’t think it was the worlds worst playcall. 

Right, but Ryan scrambled for a score. We've seen Teddy scramble fine.

The issue is that this is not a scramble situation.  The QB is at a virtual stop while the defense is reading run.  

It may not have been the world's worst playcall, and it wasn't the worst situation for Teddy to be in either, but it certainly did not make the best use of our offensive talent lol

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Just now, mav1234 said:

Right, but Ryan scrambled for a score. We've seen Teddy scramble fine.

The issue is that this is not a scramble situation.  The QB is at a virtual stop while the defense is reading run.  

It may not have been the world's worst playcall, and it wasn't the worst situation for Teddy to be in either, but it certainly did not make the best use of our offensive talent lol

I agree with you 100%

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1 minute ago, Varking said:

I personally wasn’t trying to compare him to Cam. I mean we just saw Matt Ryan run well enough to scamper for a score, Minshew makes people miss all the time, Big Ben shrugs guys off him often. One defender vs one offensive player who knows where he is moving and the defender has to guess usually works out for the offensive player. I’m not disagreeing with your assessment I just don’t think it was the worlds worst playcall. 

dude runs a 4.4.   teddy's not outrunning that.  it was a bad call and a bad keep, i mean in hindsight

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2 minutes ago, Varking said:

I personally wasn’t trying to compare him to Cam. I mean we just saw Matt Ryan run well enough to scamper for a score, Minshew makes people miss all the time, Big Ben shrugs guys off him often. One defender vs one offensive player who knows where he is moving and the defender has to guess usually works out for the offensive player. I’m not disagreeing with your assessment I just don’t think it was the worlds worst playcall. 

It wasn't a good playcall, but as you pointed out, Teddy just isn't very fast, elusive, or strong, so once the contain didn't bite, that play is over unless he hands it off.  I have no idea what he was thinking.

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