Burns prevented a sure fire touchdown

[pantherclaw]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That'd be a mistake though. If Brees escapes that sack, then he's got wide open options.

A lot of big plays happen because somebody breaks off coverage.

Which they are coached to do.  If Brees was able to hit an outlet, it would have been a bigger play. 

[RoaringRiot]

That looks more like Franklin going to the wrong spot that Boston. Brees was looking that way and hit bit on it. No way they wanted four covering two over there. 

[ncfan]

 

[Bartin]

6 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

That looks more like Franklin going to the wrong spot that Boston. Brees was looking that way and hit bit on it. No way they wanted four covering two over there. 

It was cover 3. Shaq was passing the coverage of the far side post to Franklin who had the deep middle of the field and was moving to his underneath zone. Franklin has two choices. Cover the guy Brees is looking at and leave the near side post open or cover the near side post and let the far side post be open and hope he has the recovery speed to get there in time to break up the pass. I think he chose the better of the two.

The more I look at it, the Saints just had the right play to beat the coverage we were in and Burns bailed us out. Boston went to his assignment which is the near sideline underneath zone. Should Boston have abandoned his zone since no one was there and continued with the post? That can be debated, but no idea if the coaches allow that sort of latitude and I’m not really sure I want Boston having the green light to free lance like that.

[Khyber53]

1 hour ago, SnowPanther said:

That's the part that scares me.

Did you think we were going into this rebuild with 53 all-pros on the roster? Or even 22 of them? 

He's trying hard, he's playing pretty well. Right now, he's certainly earning his spot.

[SOJA]

Semi related. why the hell do we only have a military CMC limited jersey available on our team store shop?

Brian Burns is an All Pro in the making and he has hardly any jersey options online?

[DeSim]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Have you seen Jackson play? He always needs some help. And where Brees is looking doesn't matter until his arm starts moving forward.

Burns saved that one for sure, but not only had Boston lost his man, but Jackson was beat for the back of the end zone and that curl route at the top of the screen was ready to pick up at least 10 yards as well. 

Without the sack, Brees could hit all three of the open targets with ease. We got lucky.

I agree with you that if it wouldn't have been for Burns, it's an easy touchdown but only because of Boston's fault, not Jackson.

I don't know where you're getting that Jackson was beat.  In the first picture below, Burns hasn't made contact with Brees yet and Boston is already cutting towards the bottom of the screen, Jackson is still way on top of his man, he was not getting beat.

On this second picture below, Burns already has Brees sacked and almost fully down to the ground, and Jackson is still on top of his man, still not beat.

 

Also, yeah you're right about where Brees is looking doesn't matter until his arm starts moving, but his arm wasn't moving that way to Jackson's receiver either...so there was still no reason for Boston to try and cut that way.

 

But yes, I have seen Jackson play...I know he struggles at times and needs help at times, but this was not one of those times.  The only for sure touchdown would've been the man Boston left open for no reason. 

[Jorgie]

3 hours ago, DeSim said:

wtf is Boston doing...I don't know why he felt the need to go help Jackson, Brees wasn't even looking that way.  

trying to play the flat route that isnt there while his guy flies into his zone. hes playing chess not checkers obviously

[Basbear]

Payton took full advantage of the bye week and had a great game plan of attack. He also called a great game too, jerk..

[run-run-pass-punt]

When you watch NFL caliber players make such fundamental mistakes it makes you wonder. These guys have tons of on-field experience throughout life, tons of time watching film, etc. We all make mistakes, but some guys are just not that good at their jobs. (true for all fields, to be fair) With all that experience, you just wonder how they process things and what they see.

[onmyown]

I mean if the dline doesn’t stop the run or get to the qb, a big gain is pretty much guarantee with this team

huge issue

[Khyber53]

17 hours ago, DeSim said:

I agree with you that if it wouldn't have been for Burns, it's an easy touchdown but only because of Boston's fault, not Jackson.

I don't know where you're getting that Jackson was beat.  In the first picture below, Burns hasn't made contact with Brees yet and Boston is already cutting towards the bottom of the screen, Jackson is still way on top of his man, he was not getting beat.

On this second picture below, Burns already has Brees sacked and almost fully down to the ground, and Jackson is still on top of his man, still not beat.

 

Also, yeah you're right about where Brees is looking doesn't matter until his arm starts moving, but his arm wasn't moving that way to Jackson's receiver either...so there was still no reason for Boston to try and cut that way.

 

But yes, I have seen Jackson play...I know he struggles at times and needs help at times, but this was not one of those times.  The only for sure touchdown would've been the man Boston left open for no reason. 

Watch the play through... And a DB is beat often times before the receiver gets past him. Sadly, we only have the fake crowd noise and we can't hear what the players were saying on the field. I get the feeling Jackson either shouted for help or there had been a bad ID on who the hot read was before the snap.

New Orleans flooded the field with five receivers and I agree that Boston made a bad choice in coverage, I just think there may be more to his decision making than a silent video shows.

But best of the day to ya. We got lucky on that one.

[Mister]

thats why keep building that dline , every year first round should be on the line until we are the best again