We should be undefeated

[jdr6000]

We wouldn’t be undefeated but we would have at least two more wins.

This is why I am excited for next year and beyond. Rhule will build the line this offseason.

[jdr6000]

39 minutes ago, pantherj said:

We have a low level of talent on our roster. We are overachieving because Teddy is great at executing our offense. Our offense is good at disguising our lack of talent on the o-line, TE, and no true #1 WR.

The wheels start to come off when we face teams that are not only more talented overall, but can also bully us in the trenches. This causes our offense to lean even more on Teddy, and the result is usually going to be a meltdown.

The good news is that we have several terrible players on both offense and defense who will be upgraded through the draft and free agency. The 2021 team will be leaps and bounds better talent wise due to the extreme upgrades that will occur at multiple starting positions on both sides of the ball. We could add CB1, CB2 (move Jackson to slot), Safety, LG, TE, DT, ect. Upgrading the secondary will create a tighter pass defense with more interceptions, pass defenses, and coverage sacks. A better player at LG reduces sacks and pressure, and boosts the run game. A TD machine type TE with tremendous height and athleticism will cure our redzone woes. Adding a great pass rushing DT to pair with Brown and Burns will be lethal. We can have a badass team next season. Right now it's going to be a struggle.    

Well said

[Mister]

8 hours ago, Panther Believer said:

I can assure you we wouldn't be undefeated even if we had the Raiders O-line lol. Okung has been solid and Moton has been elite. Paradis and John Miller are solid in the run game. The interior is definitely the weakness, while I'd like to see us shore up the line in the offseason, compared to the Remmers, Kalil, Nate chandler, or Byron Bell days this O-Line is God sent. Give me a great MLB over a great Guard everyday for what we need.

it is an upgrade to the remmers and the worst ever in byron bell but not even close to when we had kalil , travelle warton and gross 

[Mister]

4 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Its not the defense?

How many punts did the Saints have last weekend?

how many points does the saints put up against any team?

[Mister]

3 hours ago, pantherj said:

We have a low level of talent on our roster. We are overachieving because Teddy is great at executing our offense. Our offense is good at disguising our lack of talent on the o-line, TE, and no true #1 WR.

The wheels start to come off when we face teams that are not only more talented overall, but can also bully us in the trenches. This causes our offense to lean even more on Teddy, and the result is usually going to be a meltdown.

The good news is that we have several terrible players on both offense and defense who will be upgraded through the draft and free agency. The 2021 team will be leaps and bounds better talent wise due to the extreme upgrades that will occur at multiple starting positions on both sides of the ball. We could add CB1, CB2 (move Jackson to slot), Safety, LG, TE, DT, ect. Upgrading the secondary will create a tighter pass defense with more interceptions, pass defenses, and coverage sacks. A better player at LG reduces sacks and pressure, and boosts the run game. A TD machine type TE with tremendous height and athleticism will cure our redzone woes. Adding a great pass rushing DT to pair with Brown and Burns will be lethal. We can have a badass team next season. Right now it's going to be a struggle.    

we dont have a true # 1 i agree but we got 3 #2 receivers kinda like seattle did with golden tate , percy harvin and doug baldwin 

[Mister]

5 hours ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Sure you want 86 Giants or Bears D but we are ranked 13. Far cry from the bums you you make them out to be.

exactly , people act like our defense is bad as last year it isnt , we arent the dominant defense we seen in 2013 with greg hardy luke and charles johnson but this is a good step , white head sucks and we dont have a # 1 corner , but rasul douglas was a gem for us 

[DaveThePanther2008]

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, we're losing to better football teams and it's impressive that we're being competitive.

Hard to argue this point.  If we can nail this draft and get a couple decent Free Agents.  We'll be more competitive next year.

[pantherclaw]

13 hours ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Sure you want 86 Giants or Bears D but we are ranked 13. Far cry from the bums you you make them out to be.

I'm not concerned about a ranking when we can't get an offense off the field. 

What's  the fuging point of the ranking if opposing opposing offenses are scoring almost every time they have the ball. 

Some of you don't understand football. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

10 hours ago, Mister said:

how many points does the saints put up against any team?

Saints were missing their top 2 WRs and still were just about hitting their average PPG against our defense.  

Saints average 118 rushing yards, got 138.

Saints average 265 passing yards, got 277.

Saints lead receiver was Marquez Callaway with 8 receptions.  Who is Callaway you ask?  A rookie with 7 total targets going into this game.  5 total receptions.  We made him look like Michael Thomas.

Saints had 0 punts in the game. They averaged 4/game coming into the game.

Saints had 26 first downs.  12 of those were from 3rd downs where they went 12-14.  

Tell me again how its not the defense?  The only redeeming moment the defense had was Burn's strip sack in a drive the Saints where once again moving with impunity. 

[Mister]

17 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

When our defense can't get opposing offenses off the field, and someone wants to say our problem isn't the defense,  i can no longer take this person as a serious football fan. 

 

how about you look at the stats and apologize for being ignorant we can start with that .  OK? we are ranked 13 , snows doing a great job , we rarely get beat deep , we just need to be better on 3rd downs 

[pantherclaw]

28 minutes ago, Mister said:

how about you look at the stats and apologize for being ignorant we can start with that .  OK? we are ranked 13 , snows doing a great job , we rarely get beat deep , we just need to be better on 3rd downs 

I never said anything negative about Snow. 

 

Just pointed out our defenses glaring weakness which IS costing us games.  

 

It's all good though, I know you and the rest of the majority, didn't even expect to be be competitive this season. LOL

[SnowPanther]

1 hour ago, Mister said:

how about you look at the stats and apologize for being ignorant we can start with that .  OK? we are ranked 13 , snows doing a great job , we rarely get beat deep , we just need to be better on 3rd downs 

I looked at the stats and that third down percentage against a team full of street free agent wide receivers isn't anything to be happy about. We haven't had a defensive performance that bad since Fangio was calling plays.

[bigdavis]

17 hours ago, pantherj said:

no true #1 WR.

Gotta take exception to this claim you made.

There are 32 teams, last I counted, and that would suggest there might be as many as 32 #1 WRs.

In any case, Robby Anderson now ranks #5 in the league in Receptions, #2 in Yardage, tied #3 in catches over 20+ yds, and #1 at the longest reception of the year (75 yds, barely nosing out D. J. Moore, who has one of 74.)

Those stats pretty much define him as a #1 WR, don't they?

https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-stats/category/receiving/2020/REG/all/receivingreceptions/desc