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Get a franchise quarterback or build the offensive line?


Mr. Scot

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Pretty sure we've had this or a similar discussion before, but it's worth asking again given that we're now seven games in and have had more time to see what we have.

Which of these two things do you prioritize first: Getting our franchise quarterback of the future or building the best offensive line we can?

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For this team? Honestly line. This offense right now is built to Teddy's skillset and if it ain't broke right now you don't need to fix it. Not every QB is plug n' play (in fact it's very rare that a QB isn't a system QB of some sort) and with Robby, D.J. and CMac being great at picking up extra yards there's no reason to say yeah a Rookie/2nd year QB will absolutely get us over the hump. 

 

Pretty solid class too. Not against the imagination to get a decent project in the 2nd/3rd to ride the pine for a year or two behind Teddy. 

If a guy falls to us though hey, I'd be all for it. 

 

But defense/line can do us more immediate good than a QB could right now. 

 

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10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You go for the franchise QB when you have the opportunity. If you need one and you think one is available, you take him. Period.

Worth noting that with a system like ours, a franchise QB isn't necessarily the same thing it would be on a team like Rivera's Panthers..

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Somewhat intrinsic to this discussion is how you get that franchise quarterback.

If you believe the only true franchise quarterbacks in next year's draft are the top two or three, there is a real possibility that we might not be in position to get those guys.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Worth noting that with a system like ours, a franchise QB isn't necessarily the same thing it would be on a team like Rivera's Panthers..

Gonna need one to win it all though. At the very least one that can capture lighting in a bottle and play lights out for a few games a la an Eli or Nick Foles.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Worth noting that with a system like ours, a franchise QB isn't necessarily the same thing it would be on a team like Rivera's Panthers..

You mean the ability to force throws, evade DEs, have ice cold blood in your veins, and be the constant catalyst for the running game with a shitty offensive line?

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Gonna need one to win it all though. At the very least one that can capture lighting in a bottle and play lights out for a few games a la an Eli or Nick Foles.

See above though...

If we're not in a position to get one of the best three two or three quarterbacks available in next year's draft, do you still want to use a first round pick on one?

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

See above though...

If we're not in a position to get one of the best three two or three quarterbacks available in next year's draft, do you still want to use a first round pick on one?

All based on our evaluation. If we think there's a franchise QB available, take him. 

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