All of you were right about Cam

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

9 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah it’s not like 2016 stats aren’t up there either. Unfortunately next gen stats on him start in 2016 so if you want to say he’s been injured since then go ahead. 

But I’ll trust bill’s judgement moreso than posters with an axe to grind on here 
 

Think as you will, The injury happened vs the Chargers in 2016 dude, Minus Tom Brady Bills career hasn't been great. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

10 minutes ago, TrevorLaurenceTime22 said:

Think as you will, The injury happened vs the Chargers in 2016 dude, Minus Tom Brady Bills career hasn't been great. 

That’s 12 weeks of data before the chargers game.....

Bill has won numerous times without Brady idk what you’re talking about his career hasn’t been great, he has two rings before Brady on the giants staff 

[MHS831]

23 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

The huddle wanted to give that 19 million

Read my posts.  I was telling folks he is done in 2018. Caught hell about it.  Hater--Racist, etc.--nope--realist.  I watched him take those hits and did not cheer like others did.  I was shocked that he could take it.  I knew every hit takes a few days off his career--kinda like what they would say about smoking cigarettes.  It wears you down.  This is why RBs have a short life span.  RR wasted this talent, to a degree.

During his rookie season, I said that Cam is only effective when he is a run threat.  His accuracy and pocket presence is below average.  However, as a dual threat, he is elite.  However, I suggested that if he does not BECOME a pocket passer, his career will be like that of a RB--we'd be lucky to get 10 years out of him.  Most RBs peak at age 27 and are statistically done by age 30 (averages).  Cam has had 1 good season since 2015 (2017).  Basically, he is who he is because Ron never evolved Cam.  He sacrificed his future for the moment. 

[WUnderhill]

I’m still of the opinion it was a bad move. Hindsight is always 20-20. My position was never that he was going to definitely come back and be great, it was more along the lines of “we’re only paying him 20mil for the season and we are rebuilding, we should at least see if he’s still a franchise QB.” The reward outweighed the risk and now we’re locked into Teddy who is not a franchise QB for 3 seasons.

[Pimpdaddy]

none of this sht matters...rest in the fact that we now have an organization that can make the correct football decisions...and not betting with your heart.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah forgot facts don’t work with trolls 

I'm not real sure you understand how to read those charts.

They don't actually support the argument you're trying to make. And if you took the time to look at the individual week breakdowns for 2018 you'd find even less support 

[Shocker]

Seriously if Cam doesn’t make the Hall of Fame there is a real problem in my book.  The numbers are there.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not real sure you understand how to read those charts.

They don't actually support the argument you're trying to make. And if you took the time to look at the individual week breakdowns for 2018 you'd find even less support 

The argument that he favors his left ? Based off the chart it shows that. There’s no clear correlation that it’s because of an injured shoulder unless you want to say he hasn’t been healthy since week 12 of 2016 

[electro's horse]

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Seriously if Cam doesn’t make the Hall of Fame there is a real problem in my book.  The numbers are there.

he's not close. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Seriously if Cam doesn’t make the Hall of Fame there is a real problem in my book.  The numbers are there.

Might boil down to how this season goes for him, even if he has success he should be looking for a team with better offensive weapons if he wants to be a lock for the hall 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

The argument that he favors his left ? Based off the chart it shows that. There’s no clear correlation that it’s because of an injured shoulder unless you want to say he hasn’t been healthy since week 12 of 2016 

Yeah, not really.

But the thing of it is, even accepting the premise, Newton's most recent performances don't show him favoring the left. They show him not being able to throw to the right at all.

[Shocker]

2 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Might boil down to how this season goes for him, even if he has success he should be looking for a team with better offensive weapons if he wants to be a lock for the hall 

I think he should be in but agree...after the Super Bowl season ,with what he accomplished, it was almost assured but questionable (not in my mind), somewhat now.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

he's not close. 

Yeah, sorry folks. I really don't think you're gonna have many people outside of the Panther fanbase suggesting that he's Hall of Fame worthy.

If the biggest claim to fame is some of the records that he set, you'd have to look back because I'm pretty sure some of those have been broken since.

And yes, he had an MVP season, but one MVP award also doesn't guarantee the Hall of Fame.

For it to happen, he'd need a pretty strong advocate arguing his case.

[Cpt slay a ho]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, not really.

But the thing of it is, even accepting the premise, Newton's most recent performances don't show him favoring the left. They show him not being able to throw to the right at all.

Yeah and that’s a sample size of 1-2 weeks....that’s not enough to draw and conclusion that the shoulder is toast.
 

If someone had all 22 and saw where he’s just choosing not to throw to open wrs on that side that would draw the comparison much closer 

last week there was an article touching on it and he wasn’t seeing the field well and missing reads on both sides of the field. More mental than physical