Phil Snow's Defense

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, ENCPantherfan2 said:

You know I dunno if you can even use the rookie excuse. 2013 had a bunch of rookies starting (a good chunk of them URFA), and they were the best defense in the league outside of Seattle. I know we're talent depleted, but Snow isn't doing any favors either. 

All this talk about ceilings lately. Snow just doesn't have the ceiling unless he's literally saving everything good for a competitive season and is secretly some mastermind, but personally I think the odds on that are slim to none. Offensives have been able to scheme what ever he's putting up since week one.

[Harbingers]

1 minute ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

We had the most sacks in the NFL last year, and one of the worst defenses. Using sacks as barometer is not good.

You guys are killing me with killing a DC that's working with absolute poo. Don't move him just yet FFS, let him get some actual players on that side of the ball before we skin the cat. 

Sacks aren't a barometer. It's a fact. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

9 minutes ago, ENCPantherfan2 said:

You know I dunno if you can even use the rookie excuse. 2013 had a bunch of rookies starting (a good chunk of them URFA), and they were the best defense in the league outside of Seattle. I know we're talent depleted, but Snow isn't doing any favors either. 

Uh, really? Melvin White was the only URFA starting on that defense. Star a first rounder. The rest were not URFA's starting on that defense. That defense had two Rookies starting on it. This one has 6, and started the season with 4. WOW. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

1 minute ago, Harbingers said:

Sacks aren't a barometer. It's a fact. 

And a shitty fact, because we were complete ass on that side of the ball last year. That's also fact. 

[ENCPantherfan2]

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Uh, really? Melvin White was the only URFA starting on that defense. Star a first rounder. The rest were not URFA's starting on that defense. That defense had two Rookies starting on it. This one has 6, and started the season with 4. WOW. 

 

Robert Lester was a URFA, he didn't start but he damn sure got a lot of playing time

 

Damn I guess I over estimated. 

 

 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

Just now, ENCPantherfan2 said:

 

Robert Lester was a URFA, he didn't start but he damn sure got a lot of playing time

 

Damn I guess I over estimated. 

 

 

Big time. 

[Harbingers]

11 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

And a shitty fact, because we were complete ass on that side of the ball last year. That's also fact. 

We are on track to be just as shitty as last year with 40 less sacks. A few more games like yesterday and we'll be there. That is also a fact.

The only thing holding our stats up as a defense overall this year is our run defense. The only thing holding our defense down last year was our run defense which was... hey, guess what, scheme.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

Just now, Harbingers said:

We are on track to be just as shitty as last year with 40 less sacks. A few more games like yesterday and we'll be there. That is also a fact.

The only thing holding our stats up as a defense overall this year is our run defense. 

I mean, that's a plus because we couldn't stop anything last year with a healthy Luke. And a ton of Vets. So, that's progress, which you guys again ignored because you just want to poo on Phil Snow. LOL. 

[Harbingers]

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

I mean, that's a plus because we couldn't stop anything last year with a healthy Luke. And a ton of Vets. So, that's progress, which you guys again ignored because you just want to poo on Phil Snow. LOL. 

And we traded nearly every other stat to be decent at the run, which has been trending down pretty rapidly.

How many times does it have to be said to you. ONE PUNT IN FIVE GAMES. Thats not players. Thats scheme.

[rah53]

The defence isn't aggressive enough, too passive. It's like they're waiting for the offense to make a mistake. They didn't blitz Brady until the 3rd quarter, and even then, the blitz packages were garbage. I sure there was a series were our d blitz 3 or 4 plays straight without even disguising it, totally telegraphed.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

44 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

And we traded nearly every other stat to be decent at the run, which has been trending down pretty rapidly.

How many times does it have to be said to you. ONE PUNT IN FIVE GAMES. Thats not players. Thats scheme.

So, you're using some random stat about 1 punt in five games to make a point? When the defense was supposed to be poo to begin with, and is actually better than expected until recently? Wow. That's great man. 

[Harbingers]

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

So, you're using some random stat about 1 punt in five games to make a point? When the defense was supposed to be poo to begin with, and is actually better than expected until recently? Wow. That's great man. 

Watch this play and tell me what you see.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

22 minutes ago, rah53 said:

The defence isn't aggressive enough, too passive. It's like they're waiting for the offense to make a mistake. They didn't blitz Brady until the 3rd quarter, and even then, the blitz packages were garbage. I sure there was a series were our d blitz 3 or 4 plays straight without even disguising it, totally telegraphed.

So, they need to blitz to get to the QB? But, when they blitz they leave the poo secondary open to getting gashed. But, it's still the DC's fault because the defensive personnel is ass? Wow. Being a DC sure does suck in the NFL, if your personnel is poo, you blitz but your secondary is ass. And the fanbase is still blaming you. Although, you're still starting 6 Rookies on Defense. Yeesh man. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

Just now, Harbingers said:

Watch this play and tell me what you see.

I don't care about getting a long run play on them. They were supposed to suck, and do suck. But, still better than last year. Sorry to tell ya. But, again, the personnel is ass, but it's Snow's fault because the defense is poo even though it was supposed to be the worst defense in the league to start the season? Yeesh man. It's like you guys expected us to be good or something. Which makes sense because the Huddle has a lot of dumb asses on here.