Phil Snow's Defense

[gakonline]

Not sure if the defense was always out of position but how many times did we see Brees complete the same pass over & over in the seam. 

[SetfreexX]

We're 13th in points allowed per game / 10th in passing yards allowed per game, and TWO WEEKS in a row had the offense in position to tie / take the lead and failed to do so. 

The defense is also one of the best at pressuring the QB in the NFL, the guys at LB'er and on the back end need to give less cushion, defense has been a welcomed surprise, run defense right now is the weakness, and giving up 3-4 yards on slants spots etc. vs a HOF QB to some degree you have to give credit, Drew can't throw deep like he used to, but he will carve up most defenses. 

You can find the defensive stats on NFL.com -- not in a position to link

[Anybodyhome]

6 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

We're 13th in points allowed per game / 10th in passing yards allowed per game, and TWO WEEKS in a row had the offense in position to tie / take the lead and failed to do so. 

The defense is also one of the best at pressuring the QB in the NFL, the guys at LB'er and on the back end need to give less cushion, defense has been a welcomed surprise, run defense right now is the weakness, and giving up 3-4 yards on slants spots etc. vs a HOF QB to some degree you have to give credit, Drew can't throw deep like he used to, but he will carve up most defenses. 

You can find the defensive stats on NFL.com -- not in a position to link

Here's one you left off, and one that has cost this team 2 wins this season: 3rd down defense.

Carolina ranks 31st in the league at stopping teams on third down and getting off the field. The Saints were over 85% on 3rd down conversions yesterday. And, if you go back and watch the game, the Panthers needed one, maybe 2, 3rd down stops to win this game.

[hepcat]

3 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

When the Saints trot out a roster of nobody WRs, knowing Brees can't throw a football more than 20 yards, the Carolina Panthers countered with a zone defense. WTF. Accordingly, yet another rookie, undrafted WR on the opposing team's roster has a career day. Brees throws for 8 yards at a time and an 81% completion percentage because of a zone defense that Brees just threw to guys standing in the openings in that zone.

As the announcer correctly stated yesterday, "The Saints have the Panthers right where they want them- 3rd down and 8 for Brees." How many times you gonna have that scenario and get beat every fugging possession. The fugging Saints didn't punt the ball once yesterday. 

I don't give a poo how bad you think your defense is, at some point you gotta grow a pair.  

I knew before the game even started the Saints weren't going to punt once. They were slaughtering on 3rd downs. It's honestly a miracle the Panthers were even remotely close to having a chance to win the game given how badly the defense performed.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Here's one you left off, and one that has cost this team 2 wins this season: 3rd down defense.

Carolina ranks 31st in the league at stopping teams on third down and getting off the field. The Saints were over 85% on 3rd down conversions yesterday. And, if you go back and watch the game, the Panthers needed one, maybe 2, 3rd down stops to win this game.

I don't disagree with you that our 3rd down D needs to improve, but the D gave the offense multiple opportunities to win last week and they still failed. At the end of the day, we held one of the best offenses in the NFL to 6 points in the 2nd half with a D that everyone expected to be at or near the bottom of the league.

[parker]

19 hours ago, mc52beast said:

That’s basically what Rivera did... play soft coverage, keep everything in front of you and make them drive the entire field with no mistakes. I really don’t think we have the personnel to play man right now.

I agree.  With our best CB out of the game and Donte has a toe injury. Eli has hamstring problems.  Not to mention a lot of rookies.  Let's give Snow time to find his guys.  We've pretty much ignored the safety position in the Rivera era to the point that we were using Boston and Reid.

[PantherPhann89]

This defensive scheme we're playing aren't going to win too many games. If this is the plan, we'll look like we're only a few players away while having in a good draft position. 

[PantherPhann89]

Did they call our defense a high school zone defense? 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Did they call our defense a high school zone defense? 

Joe Thomas said we were using "high school zone coverages" to try to stop Julio Jones.

Steve Smith also pointed out that Jones would choose to be matched up against Donte Jackson any chance he could get.

[ImaginaryKev]

I don't know wtf we were doing on the first drive but I'm not mad about the defense, really. The Boston and Whitehead kinda are what we thought they were and the young guys with all the talent who are gonna be the faces of the team are learning on the job right now at hard positions (Burns, Chinn, and Brown). I expected sloppy play all year, especially in coverage. 

Going forward I'm more interested in seeing if they can really make Chinn the big Honey Badger type guy in the defense, and if we can make Rasul Douglas more than a temporary starter. Shaq Thompson might be useful next to an impact player, who knows, but he's not the big playmaker type. 

[PantherPhann89]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Joe Thomas said we were using "high school zone coverages" to try to stop Julio Jones.

Steve Smith also pointed out that Jones would choose to be matched up against Donte Jackson any chance he could get.

Well, that's about the same thing and I'm sure Smithy is right. Why would Julio not want to match up with DJ. Juilo is 6'3" and DJ is 5'10".

I'm still nowhere near sold on Snow's defense.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

3 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Well, that's about the same thing and I'm sure Smithy is right. Why would Julio not want to match up with DJ. Juilo is 6'3" and DJ is 5'10".

I'm still nowhere near sold on Snow's defense.

Yeah, but it's hard to slam a head coach when the vast majority of his personnel on defense shouldn't be on NFL rosters. Hell, some wouldn't be on SEC rosters. 

[rah53]

There have been instances this season where we've rushed 3 & dropped 8 into zone coverage, and WRs are still finding holes to get open in. That is absolutely appalling.

[PantherPhann89]

5 hours ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Yeah, but it's hard to slam a head coach when the vast majority of his personnel on defense shouldn't be on NFL rosters. Hell, some wouldn't be on SEC rosters. 

I'm not slamming the HC (Matt Rhule) I'm questioning the coaching style of the OC (Phil Snow). Whether shine of players should or shouldn't be on the roster isn't the issue. The issue is that they're missing tackles, whiffing on tackles, out of position and instructed to play a extremely soft zone coverage that any QB in the NFL and many in college can pick apart. 

This is a losing defensive scheme against most teams.