interesting presser with Phil Snow

[Basbear]

Phil took his 7 rookie dwarfs and got most of them preforming in a defense that lost elite talents, snaps, and stats. He should be leading assistant of the year. 

[Khyber53]

3 hours ago, Snake said:

Unfortunately journalism is dead. All they want is a headline or controversy. 

Journalism isn't dead, they just want you to ignore it. There's good, important stuff behind those headlines-- if you have a credible journalist giving you the information. We aren't all dead yet, but it is getting harder and harder to make a living AND keep our integrity.

[Jon Snow]

2 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I want to have a few beers with this man.  Imagine the stories he could tell.

[Davidson Deac II]

5 hours ago, Snake said:

I think it's more what they have gotten use to. Like waiting 15 minutes in a fast food line. Sometimes the market reacts to the quality of production. 

The legitimate news sources have been slowly dying because people want flashy stuff they can click and read in less than 30 seconds.  Thoughtful analysis rarely gets looked at.  Consumers have too short of an attention span for it.  That is why twitter is so popular.  

[Snake]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Journalism isn't dead, they just want you to ignore it. There's good, important stuff behind those headlines-- if you have a credible journalist giving you the information. We aren't all dead yet, but it is getting harder and harder to make a living AND keep our integrity.

Well that's the problem in a nutshell. Drama is like crack now for news organizations. Not real life interviews and breakdowns of good and bad. News use to inform now it just speaks gossip. I mean someone like Baldy breaking down what teams are doing should be on ESPN not Dallas Cowboys 24/7.

[Snake]

1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

The legitimate news sources have been slowly dying because people want flashy stuff they can click and read in less than 30 seconds.  Thoughtful analysis rarely gets looked at.  Consumers have too short of an attention span for it.  That is why twitter is so popular.  

Most of those people are not football fans. Like I said it's what the media gives you and you're forced to except it because there is nothing else. It's why ESPN is spiraling downward. No one wants to pay for that garbage even when it hosts Monday Night Football. The days of John Madden breaking down plays are gone and people actually enjoyed his insights to the game. Even if he became a bit redundant at the end. 

[panthers55]

5 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

He's 64.

Le Beau coached until he was 81. Retired after the 2017 season. Just saying....

[SnowPanther]

12 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

He's 64.

And? He's a coach, not a running back.

[LinvilleGorge]

15 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I look at this and hear Waterboy jibberish, but all jokes aside he's doing a helluva job.

[Khyber53]

9 hours ago, Snake said:

Well that's the problem in a nutshell. Drama is like crack now for news organizations. Not real life interviews and breakdowns of good and bad. News use to inform now it just speaks gossip. I mean someone like Baldy breaking down what teams are doing should be on ESPN not Dallas Cowboys 24/7.

Actually, there is good news coverage and journalism on TV still and it's available at many locations. All three of the major networks have nightly news broadcasts (CBS, ABC, NBC) that are good, quality coverage with little to no editorializing. In addition, both CNN and Fox News also do, too, but you have to watch their NEWS broadcasts and avoid all of the talking head shows. And that's the news problem in a nutshell for TV --  instead of making the news broadcasts the biggest part of their day, they have a "celebrity" news pundit sit and talk to the camera for two hours providing commentary on news but adding no additional true information. It's like a newspaper with news only on page 5 and the rest of the 48 pages filled with the Op-Ed page and letters to the editor.

And go read your local newspaper, both the pay ones and the free ones. There are good people trying to do good journalism there and other writers trying their best to tell you good stories about interesting people. Read the coverage of local governmental bodies. Read the crime reports, read the local sports coverage. Just do it without the lenses our political parties want you to read them through... you know those lenses that make everything either blue or red and blur out all the words but the headlines.

And headlines, trust me on this, they are written not just for sensationalism but also, most importantly, to fit in the space available. Sometimes they are clever, sometimes they are sensational, sometimes they are boring, and regrettably they are sometimes a bit misleading. Just read the stories to their ends, then make up your minds based on all of the information. That stuff at the end of the story is often times vitally important and it's where a lot of facts get dumped or get brought together to make a wise conclusion.

Edit to add: Sorry to go off on a rant here, but I've spent nearly 30 years of my life as a writer and editor for small town newspapers and publications. The industry has ground down those publications over the years during buy-ups by major conglomerates and a general push by politicians to destroy your trust in the very things that watch and report on what politicians are really doing. It's a sad state.

[Snake]

1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

Actually, there is good news coverage and journalism on TV still and it's available at many locations. All three of the major networks have nightly news broadcasts (CBS, ABC, NBC) that are good, quality coverage with little to no editorializing. In addition, both CNN and Fox News also do, too, but you have to watch their NEWS broadcasts and avoid all of the talking head shows. And that's the news problem in a nutshell for TV --  instead of making the news broadcasts the biggest part of their day, they have a "celebrity" news pundit sit and talk to the camera for two hours providing commentary on news but adding no additional true information. It's like a newspaper with news only on page 5 and the rest of the 48 pages filled with the Op-Ed page and letters to the editor.

And go read your local newspaper, both the pay ones and the free ones. There are good people trying to do good journalism there and other writers trying their best to tell you good stories about interesting people. Read the coverage of local governmental bodies. Read the crime reports, read the local sports coverage. Just do it without the lenses our political parties want you to read them through... you know those lenses that make everything either blue or red and blur out all the words but the headlines.

And headlines, trust me on this, they are written not just for sensationalism but also, most importantly, to fit in the space available. Sometimes they are clever, sometimes they are sensational, sometimes they are boring, and regrettably they are sometimes a bit misleading. Just read the stories to their ends, then make up your minds based on all of the information. That stuff at the end of the story is often times vitally important and it's where a lot of facts get dumped or get brought together to make a wise conclusion.

Edit to add: Sorry to go off on a rant here, but I've spent nearly 30 years of my life as a writer and editor for small town newspapers and publications. The industry has ground down those publications over the years during buy-ups by major conglomerates and a general push by politicians to destroy your trust in the very things that watch and report on what politicians are really doing. It's a sad state.

I was more or less talking about sports news. Let's not really get into the others because this will hit the tinderbox is a second. I just feel like someone like Snow will eventually clam up because that's what they always do because the media subjects them to click bate and shock headlines without adding contexts. Yes they are real people trying to be ethical but that's not what gets font page news. I remember times when both Rivera and Cam Newton were honest and actually talked about football in their news conferences and the Charlotte Observer raked them over the coals for it. Yes they got a bunch of clicks but that was the end of it and both reversed and used coach speak from there on out. 

[Khyber53]

20 minutes ago, Snake said:

I was more or less talking about sports news. Let's not really get into the others because this will hit the tinderbox is a second. I just feel like someone like Snow will eventually clam up because that's what they always do because the media subjects them to click bate and shock headlines without adding contexts. Yes they are real people trying to be ethical but that's not what gets font page news. I remember times when both Rivera and Cam Newton were honest and actually talked about football in their news conferences and the Charlotte Observer raked them over the coals for it. Yes they got a bunch of clicks but that was the end of it and both reversed and used coach speak from there on out. 

Yep, sports is its own beast, for sure. It's all hot takes and click bait, but honestly, sports is entertainment. In the end, it boils down to that.

And good coaches know there are just things they can't go into during the season. How does a DC accurately and safely answer the question, "How are you going to shut down Drew Brees this Sunday?" If they lay out their plan, then the other team can figure out how to beat them. If they go into coach speak, we all get the same old platitudes and blah blah blah.

I like Snow and what he has given us to read about. More importantly, I like how he took a defense that last year was lazily resting on Luke's shoulders and turned it into a disciplined, young and hungry unit. Considering how little time he had to do it in, it's frikkin' amazing. This is what a coach is supposed to do! Cheers to the old guy who knows what he is doing!

 

[w280sax]

It is nice that our defense as well as the team in general seems to be overachieving rather than the underachieving in recent years.

[TheCasillas]

On 10/22/2020 at 4:34 PM, Captain Morgan said:

 

He's 64.

not sure what you are getting at here? Check out this list of HCs

 

1. Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, 69 (Turns 70 on Sept. 15, 2021)
2. Patriots coach Bill Belichick, 68 (Turns 69 on April 16, 2021)
3. Cardinals Bruce Arians, 67 (Turns 68 on Oct. 3, 2020)
4. Vikings coach Mike Zimmer, 64 (Turns 65 on June 5, 2021)
5. Chiefs coach Andy Reid, 62 (Turns 63 on March 19, 2021)
6. Broncos coach Vic Fangio, 62 (Turns 63 on August 22, 2021)