REPORT: Industry sources are watching the Panthers for potential GM opening

[Aussie Tank]

2 hours ago, stbugs said:

Agree completely. Rhule and Co won’t be privy to kids in college in a couple years like they are now. We absolutely had a great advantage this draft since many of the visits and pro days got canceled and we had coaches who knew tons of players from opposing teams, their teams, players recruited that went elsewhere and other coaching acquaintances. We won’t have that forever so we need to install a good GM who can help with that. Marty’s not the guy based on his overall resume of 2018/2019 drafts and FAs.

For this reason I believe we should also be scouting young upcoming college positional coaches to join the staff every couple years 

[PantherPhann89]

7 hours ago, panthers55 said:

It is almost always that way in any organization that doesn't win consistently. The coach and GM are ultimately responsible so the buck stops there. And most times folks focus on the negative, it is human nature.

I agree but this seems to be more about Hurney's previous tenure. I don't see what he's done during this tenure to deserve constantly blaming him for everything that's wrong. And yes there are a lot of folks that focus on the negative in the huddle.

[PantherPhann89]

18 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

No. I could care less about right now. He never even got a job offer when he was fired the first time, that should tell you something right there. He has the stink of the old regime and we will never be able to complete a “rebuild” till he is gone. His name is trash, he is trash and he never should have been rehired. 
 

What has he done in this tenure to make him trash? We're currently more competitive than a lot of predictions. I'm happy about where we are right now, looking forward to improving on it and I don't care who's at the helm....as long as our trajectory is going up...

[PantherPhann89]

18 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Our resident Saints fan making an appearance....

Just PantherPhann89 that doesn't follow the masses...

[LinvilleGorge]

40 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I think RHule becomes acting GM. Beside GM duties, he controls nearly everything. I mean if Jerry Jones and Ron RIvera can do it....so can Rhule. I prefer there be a real GM tho. 

Jerry failed miserably as a GM and if Ron has full control in Washington I predict he will too. Ron can't even handle having full control of a depth chart.

[Mr. Scot]

16 minutes ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Just PantherPhann89 that doesn't follow the masses...

Sometimes the masses are right.

[4Corners]

7 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Not gonna be popular here, but espn needs to get NASCAR back...make racing a huge part of what they do...get totally new viewers back

ESPN dumped NASCAr because the sport is dying a very slow and painful death. I moved on years ago after being a huge fan and growing up around it. They don’t remove 30k seats from stadiums that are doing well. 
 

the sport was polluted by capitalism, corporatism and is borderline unwatchable now. 

[PantherPhann89]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sometimes the masses are right.

Sometimes the masses are wrong.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Sometimes the masses are wrong.

This is not one of those times.

Marty does only one thing well, and that one thing is not good enough to make him a full power GM. He does several other things poorly (free agency, contracts, total roster building, etc) and has proven so over many years.

He's not good enough. Pretty much everybody knows it. Only a few people don't want to admit it.

[DaveThePanther2008]

11 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Not sure many GMs would want to be subordinate to a college coach on his first season in the NFL. You are right that one of Matt Rhule's guys might be fine with that but I would think most GMs have a pretty big ego and would want to call the shots.

This is exactly why I think Mr. Scot is onto something.  Stewart has a relationship with Rhule.  The same reason we are playing above our expectations.   He's got guys he knows on the team.  

A totally different GM from the outside MAY butthead with Rhule.  As you stated most GMs have huge egos and may try to convince ownership to bring in their own guy at Head Coach.  Next thing we are hiring and firing GMs and Coaches every other year. 

I think since Rhule was giving the job of turning this franchise into a consistent winner.  He should have say in who we draft, who we pickup in Free Agency and who stays and goes.   The GM would advise him on what we can afford in the market and they, as a team, would decide what's next. 

That said, once again as Mr. Scot stated, Stewart is the ideal choice.   

[jfra78]

GMs are just scapegoats.  Head coach has a lot influence over who comes and goes, a whole team of talent advisors and even a guy for contracts too.  At the end of the day when things go south, fans grab the pitchforks and go after the GM.  Every NFL team its the same way

[KillerKat]

9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is not one of those times.

Marty does only one thing well, and that one thing is not good enough to make him a full power GM. He does several other things poorly (free agency, contracts, total roster building, etc) and has proven so over many years.

He's not good enough. Pretty much everybody knows it. Only a few people don't want to admit it.

He's already made it tough to build a complete roster with some of the contracts he's given to bad players.

[LinvilleGorge]

44 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

GMs are just scapegoats.  Head coach has a lot influence over who comes and goes, a whole team of talent advisors and even a guy for contracts too.  At the end of the day when things go south, fans grab the pitchforks and go after the GM.  Every NFL team its the same way

Coaches are often fired while the GM is retained. That busts a pretty big hole in your theory.

[Khyber53]

15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

From what I can tell, your formula for somebody being good enough to warrant another year is basically us not being the worst team in the league.

Honestly, I see this about Hurney a lot. Most of the praise breaks down to "he's okay", "he's not terrible", "he's not the worst", "he's not that bad" or my personal favorite, "we might get somebody even worse!"

And I suppose if that's good enough for you, then by all means keep him.

Some of us want more than three winning seasons out of fourteen (with two of those coming on the heels of other GMs).

You be you, man. He'll still be here next year.