TEDDY SUCKS

[Breakpoint4510]

5 hours ago, Varking said:

You believe through six games Teddy has shown he IS a franchise QB? Where did I say Teddy hasn’t had any good days? I’ve repeatedly said Teddy has been outstanding from 20-20. Many people here have acknowledged that Teddys red zone struggles are a problem and I’ve said it’s the one thing he has to get better at to show he can be the long term QB here. I only believe Teddy has played bad twice this year and it’s not all his fault, but he has contributed. We can’t just simply ignore his red zone production and his horrible TD to INT ratio. 

Teddy will be a franchise quarterback until thirty two GM, or coaches say he isn't. Let's look at the evidence so far. One GM drafted him in the first round, one GM gave up a third for him, and another GM out bid three other GM to sign him. So before you start making those grandiose pronouncements from your couch,  look and see what the people who make a living at this are doing.

What would you say to Exon if they abandoned an oil well because they didn't find the motherlode in the first ten feet. That's what I would say to lower tier Panther fans who want to give up on Teddy and this team after six games of year one. I'm talking about those in the Super Bowl or bust crowd who really don't know what it's like to live with the bust. Have a look at the Jets and the Vikings fans who were on board with going all in search for the one player who will carry them to the promised land. Now they are both in a feverish race to the bottom in the hopes of landing their next savior.

[Varking]

5 minutes ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

Teddy will be a franchise quarterback until thirty two GM, or coaches say he isn't. Let's look at the evidence so far. One GM drafted him in the first round, one GM gave up a third for him, and another GM out bid three other GM to sign him. So before you start making those grandiose pronouncements from your couch,  look and see what the people who make a living at this are doing.

What would you say to Exon if they abandoned an oil well because they didn't find the motherlode in the first ten feet. That's what I would say to lower tier Panther fans who want to give up on Teddy and this team after six games of year one. I'm talking about those in the Super Bowl or bust crowd who really don't know what it's like to live with the bust. Have a look at the Jets and the Vikings fans who were on board with going all in search for the one player who will carry them to the promised land. Now they are both in a feverish race to the bottom in the hopes of landing their next savior.

Jets and Vikings who let him go are looking for QBs. They let Teddy go for guys who might not be there too much longer. On top of that... Josh Rosen has been drafted high and traded for and then cut and signed by the Bucs. Just because teams want you and will sign you doesn’t mean you are a franchise QB. There is a difference between a starting QB and a Franchise QB. 
 

Teddy isn’t and has never been terrible. He rarely hurts you more than he helps you but he himself has some ways to go before he is a true franchise QB. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

That's big talk coming from someone whose playbook is to disregard anything that doesn't suit your biased agenda. You've been called out for it on multiple occasions. Reread your pissy remarks every time he does well.

"Teddy is playing a great game but y'all spiking the football over him being great are ignoring how awful this Falcons' D is playing."

Internet arguing 101 on display here. Can't argue against the points, attack the poster. LOL!

No, I don't think Teddy is good enough to lead us to a SB and yes, I'll criticize Teddy when his play is deserving of criticizing but I'll also give credit where credit is due. 

These posts pretty much sums up my opinion on Teddy:

 

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

Teddy will be a franchise quarterback until thirty two GM, or coaches say he isn't. Let's look at the evidence so far. One GM drafted him in the first round, one GM gave up a third for him, and another GM out bid three other GM to sign him. So before you start making those grandiose pronouncements from your couch,  look and see what the people who make a living at this are doing.

What would you say to Exon if they abandoned an oil well because they didn't find the motherlode in the first ten feet. That's what I would say to lower tier Panther fans who want to give up on Teddy and this team after six games of year one. I'm talking about those in the Super Bowl or bust crowd who really don't know what it's like to live with the bust. Have a look at the Jets and the Vikings fans who were on board with going all in search for the one player who will carry them to the promised land. Now they are both in a feverish race to the bottom in the hopes of landing their next savior.

Teddy's on his 4th team in 6 seasons. Your analogy is terrible. What we did wasn't akin to Exxon giving up on an oil well after 10 feet. It was akin to Exxon paying real money for an oil field that BP, Shell, and Chevron had already invested in and drilled only to decide the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

[Carl Spackler]

26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Internet arguing 101 on display here. Can't argue against the points, attack the poster. LOL!

No, I don't think Teddy is good enough to lead us to a SB and yes, I'll criticize Teddy when his play is deserving of criticizing but I'll also give credit where credit is due. 

These posts pretty much sums up my opinion on Teddy:

 

If you consider my quoting what you say as "attacking the poster," then you're struggling with reading comprehension here.

[LinvilleGorge]

40 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

That's big talk coming from someone whose playbook is to disregard anything that doesn't suit your biased agenda. You've been called out for it on multiple occasions. Reread your pissy remarks every time he does well.

 

2 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

If you consider my quoting what you say as "attacking the poster," then you're struggling with reading comprehension here.

 

LOL @ you

[SnowPanther]

Teddy's not bad, he's mediocre. He's a stop gap QB until the team drafts one, probably next year. There's a reason there's an out after year two. He'll be cut before he sees 2022.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

2 hours ago, Rags said:

The only one you can make a case for is D.J. Robby is great but a big reason he looks so good is because he and Teddy have chemistry from working together a lot this spring.  But neither of them can hold Nuks jockstrap. Christian may not be considered top 15 yet but he absolutely is. Gifted route runner with elite level speed and playmaking ability. I'd say hes about on par with D.J.

And yes congrats. You solved the mystery. Robby and D.J. do the exact same thing really well. Which is why Teddy is so good in our system and why he is a great fit for us. Wow. What a fuging concept.

And note I didn't say passing yards per QB, I said passing offenses. And points. Because all a QB does is make sure their offense runs well. There is literally nothing else to measure this by except yards and scoring. And both of them have been running their offense well. 

I promise you some of those short, quick rhythm passes you take for granted another QB would've fuged up on. And if Kylers performance last night (and him missing open targets previously) is any indication boy Kyler would've been one of them.

One thing I see you've neglected to mention is that 3 of those passing TDs were against us. In the second half. When we were playing softer defenses and not letting thr Cards get big plays on us. If Yards are flukey (and they are) why aren't TDs?

Also im getting under your skin and its *adorable* you want to be right so badly.

 

Not, one, single person thinks Christian Kirk is a top 15 WR but yourself. Congrats that's not weird or anything.

Yeah, man. You got under my skin to the point I went to work and literally forgot about your post for two whole hours. Yikes. So, under my skin. And I know I'm right on this. Kyler Murray is a better QB than Teddy BridgetothenextQB. In literally everyway possible. LOL. 

And I'm not a big fan of "playing softer defense" excuse.  Especially when that used to bite shitty Rivera in the ass all the time. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

1 hour ago, MasterAwesome said:

It goes both ways...Moore and Anderson are great receivers largely because of their YAC, but that doesn't exactly help in the red zone.  Neither have shown in their careers that they can be reliable red zone receivers.  Yes Teddy needs to get the ball in the end zone, but we also need receivers who can actually get somewhat open in the end zone.  Can't have one without the other.

I think Moore gets open, Teddy has issues getting him the ball. Teddy is what he is. A mediocre meh QB. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

4 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Not, one, single person thinks Christian Kirk is a top 15 WR but yourself. Congrats that's not weird or anything.

Yeah, man. You got under my skin to the point I went to work and literally forgot about your post for two whole hours. Yikes. So, under my skin. And I know I'm right on this. Kyler Murray is a better QB than Teddy BridgetothenextQB. In literally everyway possible. LOL. 

And I'm not a big fan of "playing softer defense" excuse.  Especially when that used to bite shitty Rivera in the ass all the time. 

I agree. Murray also has such a higher ceiling then Bridgewater. In fact I think we have seen that ceiling reached in a few games. 

[MasterAwesome]

Just now, nctarheelreincarnated said:

I think Moore gets open, Teddy has issues getting him the ball. Teddy is what he is. A mediocre meh QB. 

You *think* Moore gets open?  What exactly are you basing that off of, a feeling?  Then Cam and Kyle Allen also had issues getting him the ball in the red zone, since he has scored a whopping 3 red zone TDs in 2.5 years from 3 different QBs.  If multiple QBs struggle to get him the ball in the red zone...you gotta question whether it's really everyone else's issue, or if it's his.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

9 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

You *think* Moore gets open?  What exactly are you basing that off of, a feeling?  Then Cam and Kyle Allen also had issues getting him the ball in the red zone, since he has scored a whopping 3 red zone TDs in 2.5 years from 3 different QBs.  If multiple QBs struggle to get him the ball in the red zone...you gotta question whether it's really everyone else's issue, or if it's his.

I said I think he gets open, whether those QB's get him the ball is the question. Also, we need a taller guy for the Red Zone. We don't have that receiver right now on this team, sadly. 

[Breakpoint4510]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Teddy's on his 4th team in 6 seasons. Your analogy is terrible. What we did wasn't akin to Exxon giving up on an oil well after 10 feet. It was akin to Exxon paying real money for an oil field that BP, Shell, and Chevron had already invested in and drilled only to decide the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

Two of those teams are in a full free fall, with the Jets looking for their third coach since Teddy left, and the Vikings soon to be looking for their fourth quarterback since Teddy got hurt. The Vikings practically kneecapped themselves with their decision to sign Cousins, and they deserve every ounce of pain and anguish that they are getting. They looked at Teddy as damaged because of the knee injury even though he rarely relied on his legs to help them win games. He was a smart accurate quarterback who beat defenses with pre snap reads and made the other players around him better. They couldn't understand how Teddy Bridgewater with one repaired knee could be better than Kirk Cousins with all of his original parts because they looked a Teddy with a stereotypical eye. If he cant run, then he's no good to them any more. 

The Jets talked glowingly about Sam Darnold's ceiling even though Teddy showed that he was the best quarterback on that roster and deserved to start. Sam Darnold has now officially become a coach killer and their fans are rooting for their team to lose.

Teddy is unappreciated around here by some because he makes the game look like anyone can do it. He has the looks like Vick, plays like Brady effect on people and they don't know exactly what they are seeing. He doesn't run like Lamar Jackson, so they say he has limitations. They take his journey back from an injury as evidence that he's a journeyman in the sense that he can't stick with a team.  They don't know about how the coaches who roll with him get paid like Brady is about to do. They get tagged with the genius label. Of course there's the flip side with Tod Bowles and Mike Zimmer. One whose job lasted one year after Teddy, and Zimmer who might not make it out of the bye after two years post Teddy. So with those two we have a case of if I knew then what I know now, would I have kept Teddy. Those of you with nothing on the line don't have to answer that.   

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Breakpoint4510 said:

Two of those teams are in a full free fall, with the Jets looking for their third coach since Teddy left, and the Vikings soon to be looking for their fourth quarterback since Teddy got hurt. The Vikings practically kneecapped themselves with their decision to sign Cousins, and they deserve every ounce of pain and anguish that they are getting. They looked at Teddy as damaged because of the knee injury even though he rarely relied on his legs to help them win games. He was a smart accurate quarterback who beat defenses with pre snap reads and made the other players around him better. They couldn't understand how Teddy Bridgewater with one repaired knee could be better than Kirk Cousins with all of his original parts because they looked a Teddy with a stereotypical eye. If he cant run, then he's no good to them any more. 

The Jets talked glowingly about Sam Darnold's ceiling even though Teddy showed that he was the best quarterback on that roster and deserved to start. Sam Darnold has now officially become a coach killer and their fans are rooting for their team to lose.

Teddy is unappreciated around here by some because he makes the game look like anyone can do it. He has the looks like Vick, plays like Brady effect on people and they don't know exactly what they are seeing. He doesn't run like Lamar Jackson, so they say he has limitations. They take his journey back from an injury as evidence that he's a journeyman in the sense that he can't stick with a team.  They don't know about how the coaches who roll with him get paid like Brady is about to do. They get tagged with the genius label. Of course there's the flip side with Tod Bowles and Mike Zimmer. One whose job lasted one year after Teddy, and Zimmer who might not make it out of the bye after two years post Teddy. So with those two we have a case of if I knew then what I know now, would I have kept Teddy. Those of you with nothing on the line don't have to answer that.   

Look what Tannehill is doing after getting away from Gase. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Darnold has a similar resurgence after getting away from him.

When I talk about Teddy's limitations I'm talking more about his arm than his legs. His arm is definitely subpar for an NFL QB and that's why his average yards per completion and TD figures are always low. He's not very good driving the ball downfield or humming it into a tight window in the red zone. Can he do it occasionally? Sure. But it's definitely not a strength of his game.