TEDDY SUCKS

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Rags said:

Speaking of surprising QBs this season

The fug has Tannehill been drinking and where can I get some.

Its no secret I'm in the "you don't need an elite QB to win as long as long as you have a great supporting cast." And with Talents like Henry and Brown and that entire defense I didn't bat an eye when they started winning with Tanny

I did bat an eye at that contract though.

And good lord he's earning every penny of it so far.

A dominant running game is a QB's best friend and Derrick Henry is a damn cheat code. But the way that offense is playing, Arthur Smith has to be surging among possible HC candidates. He's only 38 and is in his first year as an OC, but they're 2nd in the league in both yardage and points.

The Titans might be legit SB contenders. 

[nctarheelreincarnated]

Also, that guy's trolling right? He legit said Kyler Murray has been as table as Teddy Bridgewater. That's a troll, correct? 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Varking said:

Just getting away from Gase tends to help out. I thought he was better once he left Miami but I didnt have him listed as Potential MVP Candidate for 2020. He’s earning his money. 

Honestly, it kinda makes you look at Sam Darnold and go "Hmmm... tempting"

[Rags]

13 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Stable and consistent as Teddy? Teddy doesn't have his running ability, his running ability mask his other deficiencies in his game. 

Teddy legit has the same amount of TD's as Mitch Trubisky and Mitch has been benched for two damn games. Please stop this poo, everyone would take Kyler over BridgetothenextQB everyday, and twice on Sunday's. I don't care what the Cards fans have been questioning, the guy is legit throwing at a 63% clip, even after a poo game last night. He had over 70% completition percentage vs the Panthers. 

I've seen a lot of poo, but comparing a guy that has 6 TD's passing, and 1 rushing TD to a guy that has 10 TD's passing, and 5 rushing TD's. And was earlier in the season in the MVP realm is rich. The Huddle truly is a special place. BridgetothenextQB isn't close to Murray's potential, or game breaking ability. 

Ah okay you only care about how big the numbers get and obviously that all rides on a QB and nothing else.

Nevermind the fact Kyler has two top 15 WRs or anything like that.

Nevermind the fact that we actually have a better passing offense wrt Yards and we still have 24 ppg to Az's 28.

Nah im just trolling because I can see the bigger picture outside of reading a box score.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

Just now, Rags said:

Ah okay you only care about how big the numbers get and obviously that all rides on a QB and nothing else.

Nevermind the fact Kyler has two top 15 WRs or anything like that.

Nevermind the fact that we actually have a better passing offense wrt Yards and we still have 24 ppg to Az's 28.

Nah im just trolling because I can see the bigger picture outside of reading a box score.

And Teddy doesn't have two top 15 WR's in Anderson or Moore? LOL. WTF? You're not making any sense. You seriously think Kirk's a top 15 WR? Yeah, I don't agree with that. Yards are not a good barometer of measuring how good a QB is. Not to mention, the amount of YAC Anderson and DJ Moore have is nuts. Last years leader in passing yards? Jameis Winston-Didn't make the Playoffs. Dak Prescott-Didn't make the Playoffs, Jared Goff-Didn't make the Playoffs, Phillip Rivers-Didn't make the Playoffs, Matt Ryan-Didn't make the Playoffs. Oh yeah, I don't see the bigger picture, but you're using yards as a barometer with QB's. And you're not trolling? Sure dude. Sure. Go in timeout, grown folks would like to talk now. 

[Rags]

1 minute ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

And Teddy doesn't have two top 15 WR's in Anderson or Moore? LOL. WTF? You're not making any sense. You seriously think Kirk's a top 15 WR? Yeah, I don't agree with that. Yards are not a good barometer of measuring how good a QB is. Not to mention, the amount of YAC Anderson and DJ Moore have is nuts. Last years leader in passing yards? Jameis Winston-Didn't make the Playoffs. Dak Prescott-Didn't make the Playoffs, Jared Goff-Didn't make the Playoffs, Phillip Rivers-Didn't make the Playoffs, Matt Ryan-Didn't make the Playoffs. Oh yeah, I don't see the bigger picture, but you're using yards as a barometer with QB's. And you're not trolling? Sure dude. Sure. Go in timeout, grown folks would like to talk now. 

The only one you can make a case for is D.J. Robby is great but a big reason he looks so good is because he and Teddy have chemistry from working together a lot this spring.  But neither of them can hold Nuks jockstrap. Christian may not be considered top 15 yet but he absolutely is. Gifted route runner with elite level speed and playmaking ability. I'd say hes about on par with D.J.

And yes congrats. You solved the mystery. Robby and D.J. do the exact same thing really well. Which is why Teddy is so good in our system and why he is a great fit for us. Wow. What a fuging concept.

And note I didn't say passing yards per QB, I said passing offenses. And points. Because all a QB does is make sure their offense runs well. There is literally nothing else to measure this by except yards and scoring. And both of them have been running their offense well. 

I promise you some of those short, quick rhythm passes you take for granted another QB would've fuged up on. And if Kylers performance last night (and him missing open targets previously) is any indication boy Kyler would've been one of them.

One thing I see you've neglected to mention is that 3 of those passing TDs were against us. In the second half. When we were playing softer defenses and not letting thr Cards get big plays on us. If Yards are flukey (and they are) why aren't TDs?

Also im getting under your skin and its *adorable* you want to be right so badly.

 

[rico6]

Robby looks good because he’s fuging good. Wtf lol.

[raz]

i don't point fingers, i point thumbs

[MechaZain]

Teddy's only bad by Cam Newton standards which were never reasonable to begin with, honestly. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Teddy's only bad by Cam Newton standards which were never reasonable to begin with, honestly. 

Teddy is tied for 28th in the NFL in passing TDs and tied for 7th in INTs. That's not good.

[MasterAwesome]

16 hours ago, Varking said:

He’s part of the reason we aren’t scoring in the red zone. I provided his red zone accuracy above. Nothing about posting on an Internet forum requires “balls”. What a silly thing to write as an adult. Again, you provided no evidence to disprove what the numbers have shown. 

So if I say that no one is getting open in the red zone...you really think posting Teddy's accuracy in the red zone is supposed to be some kind of empirical rebuttal of that?  Can you please theoretically explain how he would manage to complete passes to receivers that are locked up?  I'm sure if he routinely forced throws there, his completion percentage would go way up...perhaps not to his own receivers, but who cares!  Your statistics do not contradict my premises whatsoever.  You highlight Teddy's success between the 20s...well, look at our receivers.  Three relatively small, speedy YAC guys...and you wonder why we succeed between the 20s and stall in the red zone.  Come on man...this is like elementary level nuance.  This is what it means to apply context to stats instead of simply copy/pasting from Wikipedia or whatever.

I think it's fascinating and extremely telling that when someone posts Teddy's red zone stats from last year with the Saints, your explanation of the drastic difference with this year must be that Teddy just significantly regressed...in a span of less than a year.  Never mind that we have an entirely different receiving corps and offensive playcalling than the Saints of last season.  Forget that we don't have a Michael Thomas or Jared Cook who are actually capable of winning red zone matchups.  Naw...must be Teddy!  That's pretty bad faith arguing.

Based on your most recent backpedaling, can we now once and for all summarize your argument that our red zone struggles are a combination of Teddy, our receiving corps, and playcalling?  That's a pretty non-contentious and dare I say reasonable argument...one that I can subscribe to.  Which begs the question, why are all of your posts and stats hyper focused on Teddy?  Here, let me start you off with a freebie elsewhere so you can come across as more objective.  Let's take a look at our top 2 receivers and their history with red zone scoring:

DJ Moore: 7 total TDs in his 3-year career....4 of these were 50+ yard touchdowns.  That means 3 total touchdowns in the red zone...that's between three different full-time QBs, including Cam in 2018.

Robby Anderson: 21 total TDs in his 5-year career...only 5 of these were in the red zone (<20 yards).  That's between four different full-time QBs.   

Those stats don't exactly scream "red zone threats" to me.  When Curtis Samuel is our biggest red zone threat.....yeah, that makes me think personnel could be a pretty big issue.

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

And Teddy doesn't have two top 15 WR's in Anderson or Moore? LOL. WTF? You're not making any sense. You seriously think Kirk's a top 15 WR? Yeah, I don't agree with that. Yards are not a good barometer of measuring how good a QB is. Not to mention, the amount of YAC Anderson and DJ Moore have is nuts. Last years leader in passing yards? Jameis Winston-Didn't make the Playoffs. Dak Prescott-Didn't make the Playoffs, Jared Goff-Didn't make the Playoffs, Phillip Rivers-Didn't make the Playoffs, Matt Ryan-Didn't make the Playoffs. Oh yeah, I don't see the bigger picture, but you're using yards as a barometer with QB's. And you're not trolling? Sure dude. Sure. Go in timeout, grown folks would like to talk now. 

It goes both ways...Moore and Anderson are great receivers largely because of their YAC, but that doesn't exactly help in the red zone.  Neither have shown in their careers that they can be reliable red zone receivers.  Yes Teddy needs to get the ball in the end zone, but we also need receivers who can actually get somewhat open in the end zone.  Can't have one without the other.

[Carl Spackler]

32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Teddy is tied for 28th in the NFL in passing TDs and tied for 7th in INTs. That's not good.

I mean, Cam Newton is tied for 33rd in the NFL in passing TDs and no one says that's not good for him. I'm not that obsessed over if a quarterback throws for 35 TDs, especially if the running backs are scoring a lot of TDs. Points are points. If Teddy's passing gets us down there and we punch it in on the ground, that's fine.

[MasterAwesome]

20 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

There’s a touchdown pass...

Oh wait nvm 

It's crazy that a number of people on here have either been blaming Teddy for this throw or outright dismissing it.  This was prime Cam/Russell Wilson-esque...throwing off his back foot in the face of pressure to where only his receiver could catch it.  Proceeds to hit him square in the hands.  The difference is that Russell's receivers routinely come down with his 50/50 prayers...and this one wasn't even a 50/50 throw, this was perfect placement.