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Atlanta player placed on Covid list , played against Panthers.


Jeremy Igo

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40 minutes ago, raz said:

this is an excellent question/point.  one minor correction - i never claimed i existed so i have no burden of proof.   i have neither claimed that i have means of measurement, nor have i claimed that i can explain how things pop in to and out of existence.  we have watched things pop in to and out of existence, they  are called gluons.   on a larger lever you can think about water.  it is constantly popping into and out of existence due to the nature of the bonds.  that's how it moves the way it does.  it is  not in a constant state.   nothing is in a constant state, this is why words - which are static symbols - can never describe reality

This smoked habanero sauce ... is it good?

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1 hour ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Considering out of the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL not a single solitary “case” has caused death or hospitalization and a majority were asymptomatic, I like the odds

 

1 hour ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Seriously, has no one else just stopped and took a break from the hysteria and wonder why not a single solitary player, staff or member of ANY pro sports organization in the US has fallen severely ill or died? Even the Saints owner whom is 77 years old recovered in like a few days 

https://myfox8.com/news/coronavirus/19-year-old-basketball-player-from-davidson-county-dies-due-to-coronavirus-complications/

https://www.wxii12.com/article/davidson-north-carolina-teen-basketball-coronavirus-death/34208059#

 

Its rare but it happens, 1 out of 10,000,000 chance. 

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12 hours ago, Varking said:

https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/05/college-football-coronavirus-covid-cases-opt-outs
here is a third example for good measure. You keep saying things that are super easy to debunk through really quick searches. 

Nothing you've debunked gives reason for hysteria, to PanthersNC1984's point..  To be clear, doctors are not completely sure whether or not covid ACTUALLY causes organ damage, and the only evidence that exists of this is anecdotal.  To quote my (and everyone else's) stats professor - Correlation does not imply causation.  The only controlled studies to actually prove have been done on organoids, which do not completely mimic organs, and have not provided significant findings yet.

Most of the issues you're pointing out are about 95% likely to be underlying conditions that already existed which Covid exposed.  For example - "covid related" kidney damage that occurs with people whose kidneys were already oxygen starved due to some genetic predispositon or ailment...  Yes, covid definitely threw the knockout blow, but the reality is any respiratory illness could have had the potential to throw that same knockout punch.  Tom Seaver, for example, died of dimentia complications that were spurred on by Covid.  A quick bit of research shows that the case of myocarditis that you referenced is typically a side effect of any great number of viral infections.  Rodriguez was very likely to get it had he gotten some other virus that civilization isn't burning to the ground over.

Again, the statistics are irrefutable at this point - an overwhelming majority of people are not going to experience severe illness from Covid.  Logic would dictate that most people as healthy as athletes probably do not have much to worry about.  There are roughly 5,000 professional athletes in the country. Doing simple math, if every single one of them were infected, around 50-100 MIGHT have something to really worry about.

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3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Not the last thread about covid but the one before that we shared stuff like this with him and he came back here now like two weeks later still ignoring any data presented to him. 

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5 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

Nothing you've debunked gives reason for hysteria, to PanthersNC1984's point..  To be clear, doctors are not commpletely clear on whether covid ACTUALLY causes organ damage, and the only evidence that exists of this is anecdotal.  To quote my (and everyone else's) stats professor - Correlation does not imply causation.  The only controlled studies to actually prove have been done on organoids, which do not completely mimic organs, and have not provided significant findings yet.

Most of the issues you're pointing out are about 95% likely to be underlying conditions that already existed which Covid exposed.  For example - "covid related" kidney damage that occurs with people whose kidneys were already oxygen starved due to some genetic predispositon or ailment...  Yes, covid definitely threw the knockout blow, but the reality is any respiratory illness could have had the potential to throw that same knockout punch.  Tom Seaver, for example, died of dimentia complications that were spurred on by Covid.  A quick bit of research shows that the case of myocarditis that you referenced is typically a side effect of any great number of viral infections.  Rodriguez was very likely to get it had he gotten some other virus that civilization isn't burning to the ground over.

Again, the statistics are irrefutable at this point - an overwhelming majority of people are not going to experience severe illness from Covid.  Logic would dictate that most people as healthy as athletes probably do not have much to worry about.  There are roughly 5,000 professional athletes in the country. Doing simple math, if every single one of them were infected, around 50-100 MIGHT have something to really worry about.

And that’s too many people having something to really worry about. And we still don’t know long term what this might do to anyone who survives it. 
 

Edit: to be clear I’m not debunking the hysteria. I’m debunking the part where he has written in a few threads that athletes aren’t going to the hospital and having bad symptoms or dying. It’s happened. It was pointed out to him previously as well. 

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7 minutes ago, Varking said:

Not the last thread about covid but the one before that we shared stuff like this with him and he came back here now like two weeks later still ignoring any data presented to him. 

Ive been in a few, I believe @PanthersNC1984 will acknowledge this. Hes not a Hoaxer, is he?? I have plenty of critical comments about convid, but still will not ignore facts or well-thought out comments. 

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2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

2 week quarantine for the entire league. Nuff said. If they keep being stupid about it there won't be much of a season left. listening to the commentators whine about football shape? fug off.

THIS. SOLVES. NOTHING. This is the same stupid, moronic logic that says we can just lockdown our way out of this. This is the first time in human history the world shut down during a pandemic. Look at NYC, locked down for months, got cases practically down to zero, they reopened and weeks later they shut down again. 
 

Bottom line is they locked down for months for nothing because cases still spiked. Cuomo is a dictator but hey, atleast he is making money from the Covid book he wrote. No I’m not joking, he already has a book out about Covid. He’s a sociopathic, narcissistic opportunist 

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9 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

1 out how many have been affected? And look at the end result, he ended up being fine and can go back and play as normal. 

Wut...

He hasn’t been able to play. He’s just getting cleared to walk and resume physical activates. 
 

Boston Red Sox manager Ron Roenicke announced on Friday that left-handed starter Eduardo Rodriguez has been cleared by doctors and the team's training staff to resume walking and other physical activity in a couple of weeks, according to Alex Speier of the Boston Globe. 

He’s getting cleared to resume walking again...But sure he is “fine”. And the football player who died?

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2 hours ago, PandaMan said:

The person with access to the best medical care available was okay after a few days, imagine that.  A lot of the problem with the virus is the fact that there’s still so much we don’t know and are  still learning.  It’s not hysteria to be hyper-cautious about something with so many unknown aspects.  There are lots of reports of organ damage in people who have recovered from the illness itself.  

I disagree with the “there is still a lot we don’t know about this virus” line. It’s been nearly a year, we know quite a lot actually. Like for instance, a vast majority of school age kids have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike than Covid, so schools should open immedately.

We know the elderly and those with underlying conditions are most at risk, so let’s focus our effort on those folks. Imagine how many more lives we would save if we devoted our resources to those most at risk instead of taking a one size fits all approach

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5 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

I disagree with the “there is still a lot we don’t know about this virus” line. It’s been nearly a year, we know quite a lot actually. Like for instance, a vast majority of school age kids have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike than Covid, so schools should open immedately.

We know the elderly and those with underlying conditions are most at risk, so let’s focus our effort on those folks. Imagine how many more lives we would save if we devoted our resources to those most at risk instead of taking a one size fits all approach

The kids aren’t the major concern at schools of getting covid, it’s bringing it home to an elderly person or parent, or possibly their elder teachers. The cafeteria ladies. The janitor. Definitely the librarian. 

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46 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

I disagree with the “there is still a lot we don’t know about this virus” line. It’s been nearly a year, we know quite a lot actually. Like for instance, a vast majority of school age kids have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike than Covid, so schools should open immedately.

We know the elderly and those with underlying conditions are most at risk, so let’s focus our effort on those folks. Imagine how many more lives we would save if we devoted our resources to those most at risk instead of taking a one size fits all approach

This is such a load of poo and so much what is wrong with this country right now

 

Trying to draw a parallel between those who are symptomatic/measurably sick to people who can spread this disease is so wrong headed that it boggles the mind.

 

ProTip PanthersNC1984:  Just because the virus doesn't affect someone doesn't mean they cant give it to a loved one or a stranger that it could have a tragic effect on

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