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Atlanta player placed on Covid list , played against Panthers.


Jeremy Igo

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27 minutes ago, raz said:

that's not the side the burden of proof lays on.  just like believing in 'god'.  the burden of proof lies with the believer, not the non-believer.  

as an example to clarify - i believe chtulu will come and destroy the empire state building in 5 years.  prove he won't.   you can't, because believing in something is a meaningless statement.  again - sorry for the derail of the thread

What if I say the burden of proof lies on you to prove you exist.  What is existence anyhow?  If you can't tell me how something can be made from nothing, your existence is up for the same level of scrutiny.

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3 minutes ago, CatTower said:

What if I say the burden of proof lies on you to prove you exist.  What is existence anyhow?  If you can't tell me how something can be made from nothing, your existence is up for the same level of scrutiny.

LOL! 

Edit: I see what you're trying to do, but trust me, you're not doing it. lmao

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2 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Seriously, has no one else just stopped and took a break from the hysteria and wonder why not a single solitary player, staff or member of ANY pro sports organization in the US has fallen severely ill or died? Even the Saints owner whom is 77 years old recovered in like a few days 

The person with access to the best medical care available was okay after a few days, imagine that.  A lot of the problem with the virus is the fact that there’s still so much we don’t know and are  still learning.  It’s not hysteria to be hyper-cautious about something with so many unknown aspects.  There are lots of reports of organ damage in people who have recovered from the illness itself.  

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38 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Considering out of the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL not a single solitary “case” has caused death or hospitalization and a majority were asymptomatic, I like the odds

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/red-sox-pitcher-cleared-to-walk-start-physical-activity-months-after-developing-covid-related-heart-issue/

what about this?

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6 minutes ago, PandaMan said:

The person with access to the best medical care available was okay after a few days, imagine that.  A lot of the problem with the virus is the fact that there’s still so much we don’t know and are  still learning.  It’s not hysteria to be hyper-cautious about something with so many unknown aspects.  There are lots of reports of organ damage in people who have recovered from the illness itself.  

This is the one a lot of people are sleeping on. Even strong people who recover can be diminished. Players have their careers ended over losing half a second off of their 40 time. Imagine what even minor impairment of lung function could do to some of these guys. Not to mention heart, liver, kidney. We just don't know enough to be as cavalier as we've been thus far. 

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28 minutes ago, CatTower said:

What if I say the burden of proof lies on you to prove you exist.  What is existence anyhow?  If you can't tell me how something can be made from nothing, your existence is up for the same level of scrutiny.

this is an excellent question/point.  one minor correction - i never claimed i existed so i have no burden of proof.   i have neither claimed that i have means of measurement, nor have i claimed that i can explain how things pop in to and out of existence.  we have watched things pop in to and out of existence, they  are called gluons.   on a larger lever you can think about water.  it is constantly popping into and out of existence due to the nature of the bonds.  that's how it moves the way it does.  it is  not in a constant state.   nothing is in a constant state, this is why words - which are static symbols - can never describe reality

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49 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Considering out of the NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL not a single solitary “case” has caused death or hospitalization and a majority were asymptomatic, I like the odds

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/23/sports/ncaafootball/college-football-death-jamain-stephens.html
Here is a football example to go along with the Baseball one I provided you a couple weeks ago that you forgot about. 

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49 minutes ago, PanthersNC1984 said:

Seriously, has no one else just stopped and took a break from the hysteria and wonder why not a single solitary player, staff or member of ANY pro sports organization in the US has fallen severely ill or died? Even the Saints owner whom is 77 years old recovered in like a few days 

https://www.si.com/college/2020/08/05/college-football-coronavirus-covid-cases-opt-outs
here is a third example for good measure. You keep saying things that are super easy to debunk through really quick searches. 

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1 hour ago, raz said:

that's not the side the burden of proof lays on.  just like believing in 'god'.  the burden of proof lies with the believer, not the non-believer.  

as an example to clarify - i believe chtulu will come and destroy the empire state building in 5 years.  prove he won't.   you can't, because believing in something is a meaningless statement.  again - sorry for the derail of the thread

"Believing" in God doesn't require any burden of proof at all.  Trying to prove His existence does, but no one is required to justify their religious belief to you, or anyone else, for any reason.

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